Of the original lot of eight systems I bought, one was lost, crushed to less than half the original height in most places by a moron forklift operator. Seems he was trying to stack a frame from an IBM 982 on it. Really comic. The faceplate snapped into fifty bits, the cdrom collapsed, the floppy was flat. Plugged it in, straightened the VGA connector with a screwdriver, kicked it a few times (memory had become unseated) and it booted DOS. Jim On Monday, August 06, 2001 5:27 PM, Master of all that Sucks [SMTP:vance@ikickass.org] wrote: with