26 Nov
1998
26 Nov
'98
3:45 p.m.
Just a note that the URL of my pinouts section has changed. Sorry for any
inconvenience, this one will be permanent.
http://www.prinsol.com/~aaron/classiccmp/
I am working to put up the pinouts I've received from Pete and Sam
(actually, Sam's may already be up...) and have also added an "incoming"
directory for people who are feeling philanthropic (and a little bored).
Incoming pinouts can go to:
ftp://ftp.prinsol.com/
user: pinouts
password: pinouts
In addition to pinouts, I'm slowly adding my collection of different
hardware "hacks" and some general repair information. I've been trolling
through the classiccmp archives at Kevin Heydon's page as well and plan to
organize and archive the tons of useful repair info there too, from what
cleaners to use for removing sharpie-written prices on plastic to Tony's
latest AT keyboard repair.
The last thing I plan to add is a single directory with nothing but FAQ's,
for all kinds of machines, concentrated in one place. As some have pointed
out lately, many of the questions that are asked here are easily answered
by the appropriate FAQ; it's just a matter of digging it up. After I get
all the FAQ's I can carry online, I'll tie them to a search script for
convenience.
Aaron
26 Nov
26 Nov
11:09 a.m.
New subject: networking newbie
Just kindly point to right place so I could do:
Have 2 NICs in Win95sux machine, both are working.
Nic 1 is for cable modem as normal - printer/sharing off.
nic 2 for download / upload data to my machine but cannot be accessed
by nic 1.
So I can use that machine to pull the linux files by NFS to setup a
new linux box.
I need to know what is proper way and what terms it's called. If I
need a specific program to add to this setup please specifiy one that
I don't have to pay or unlimited shareware.
Thanks!
Back to topic about oldie machine (8573 P75 will be 10 years real
soon!)
Jason D
email: jpero(a)cgocable.net
Pero, Jason D.
27 Nov
27 Nov
1:02 a.m.
New subject: networking newbie
jpero(a)pop.cgocable.net wrote:
Just kindly point to right place so I could do:
Have 2 NICs in Win95sux machine, both are working.
Nic 1 is for cable modem as normal - printer/sharing off.
nic 2 for download / upload data to my machine but cannot be accessed
by nic 1.
So I can use that machine to pull the linux files by NFS to setup a
new linux box.
I need to know what is proper way and what terms it's called. If I
need a specific program to add to this setup please specifiy one that
I don't have to pay or unlimited shareware.
The difficulty is that you're using the Win95 machine as your
router/bridge, and Win95 is not the best choice for providing this
kind of service. I know there are products out there that should
do it, but I've never had real cause to research them and I don't
know what there is in freeware.
If the machine with the cablemodem and reqular network card was
running Linux, it would be a piece of cake, there have been
excellent articles in Linux Journal and several HOWTOs on just that
subject. Hopefully, within not too many weeks I'll be able to give
precise step-by-step instructions, whenever cablemodem service
reaches my neighborhood. (Admittedly, when the cablemodem is
installed by Comcast, they'll set it up on the rarely-booted Win95
partition of this system, because that's all they know how to do,
then I set up Linux networking and routing on my own -- I foresee
little difficulty). Then (to keep classic computers involved), it
will be possible for authorised guests to telnet into my Linux box
and reach serial login to an old Tandy 6000 and an AT&T Unix PC or
two and perhaps a Color Computer 3 running OS-9 Level II.
--
Ward Griffiths <mailto:gram@cnct.com> <http://www.cnct.com/home/gram/>
WARNING: The Attorney General has determined that Alcohol, Tobacco,
and Firearms can be hazardous to your health -- and get away with it.
4:07 a.m.
New subject: networking newbie
Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 10:02:32 -0500
Reply-to: classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu
From: Ward Donald Griffiths III <gram(a)cnct.com>
To: "Discussion re-collecting of classic computers"
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
Subject: Re: networking newbie
Ward's scribblings showed,
The difficulty is that you're using the Win95
machine as your
router/bridge, and Win95 is not the best choice for providing this
kind of service. I know there are products out there that should
do it, but I've never had real cause to research them and I don't
know what there is in freeware.
I don't want the nic1 from cable side seen thru nic2 or anything
else. Just normal as is as before.
nic2 all it needs is accessed by thru that nic2 to that local HD on
that win95sux not all thru to net. And NFS enabled on that nic2.
Otherwise:
I do: box1 nic1 tcpip cablemodem, nic2 with NetBEUI --- to
very basic stripped down box2 nic3 NetBEUI and a nic4 set as TCP/IP
with NFS server enabled. box 3 with nic5 sucks up all the stuff for
linux installation thru all that babble off that box1 for data not
from net with a firewall. :)
Any ideas?
Jason D.
email: jpero(a)cgocable.net
Pero, Jason D.
11:46 a.m.
New subject: networking newbie
On Fri, 27 Nov 1998 jpero(a)pop.cgocable.net wrote:
I don't want the nic1 from cable side seen thru
nic2 or anything
else. Just normal as is as before.
nic2 all it needs is accessed by thru that nic2 to that local HD on
that win95sux not all thru to net. And NFS enabled on that nic2.
Otherwise:
I do: box1 nic1 tcpip cablemodem, nic2 with NetBEUI --- to
very basic stripped down box2 nic3 NetBEUI and a nic4 set as TCP/IP
with NFS server enabled. box 3 with nic5 sucks up all the stuff for
linux installation thru all that babble off that box1 for data not
from net with a firewall. :)
Jason, I'm trying to do the exact same thing and have had no success
either. My conclusion is that Win95 is just not capable of handling
multiple protocol stacks. I've tried before to have two TCP/IP stacks
over different mediums, one being my cable modem and the other being a
dialup. My cable modem went down one day so I tried to revert to the
dialup connection. I tried everything, including tearing out the TCP/IP
configuration for the cable modem and I STILL could not get the dialup
connection working.
Since this is off-topic, I'd rather take this off-list with whomever
thinks they can help out. Right now I'm trying to setup another machine
that I'd like to be able to access the machine with my cable modem, just
so I can transfer files back and forth between the two. So far I've been
unsuccessful.
I think I know the solution to this problem though...skip the Win95
bullshit and go right to setting up my Linux server finally.
Sellam Alternate e-mail: dastar(a)siconic.com
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7:12 p.m.
New subject: networking newbie
Sam Ismail wrote:
I think I know the solution to this problem
though...skip the Win95
bullshit and go right to setting up my Linux server finally.
That's what I said. And will do as soon as the town officials let
Comcast provide the cablemodem service.
--
Ward Griffiths <mailto:gram@cnct.com> <http://www.cnct.com/home/gram/>
WARNING: The Attorney General has determined that Alcohol, Tobacco,
and Firearms can be hazardous to your health -- and get away with it.
4:53 a.m.
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3:15 a.m.
New subject: St. Vincent DePaul Finds
Interesting find at the local Thrift store. A large box of 3-1/2
diskettes
for the Amiga 500 computer.. There must be over 500 different programs
all neatly labeled and neatly packed in a nice box.. I did'nt know so
many
programs even existed for the Amiga. Should be fun looking at all this
stuff.
Now I have to unpack my old Amiga and see what treasures I have found..
Also inculded in the find was 6 books for the Amiga and 6 books for the
Commodore 128 computer, including a large Tech Reference manual..
Best was a book on C/PM for the C-128 (Really like that one)..
Phil...
3:19 a.m.
New subject: Uknown Cartridge found..
Forgot to mention in my find was a cartridge titled
"Mach 128" its by Access software inc..
Obviously for the C-128, but don't know what it does..
Has a switch on top and a reset button? on it..
Anyone ever seen this Cart before ?
Phil...
28 Nov
28 Nov
4:24 a.m.
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11:14 a.m.
On Fri, 27 Nov 1998, Tony Duell wrote:
Sounds good! I'm sure there's going to be more than a few future
collectors who will be glad you took the time to write this stuff down
(the repair stuff), not to mention any pinouts too. Anything at all that
you feel would make a good addition to a pinout/hack/repair site, you can
either email directly to me or upload to that ftp site.
Cheers,
Aaron
Aaron C. Finney Systems Administrator WFI Incorporated
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"UNIX is an exponential algorithm with a seductively small constant."
I am working
to put up the pinouts I've received from Pete and Sam
(actually, Sam's may already be up...) and have also added an "incoming"
directory for people who are feeling philanthropic (and a little bored).
Incoming pinouts can go to:
One day I'll find time to type up all the PERQ pinouts (lets see... 5
boards at 200 pins/board + all the connectors ;-)).
I've got the PERQ 3a pinouts as a text file, which you're welcome to
have, but all the connectors are in the same file and I've not included
ascii-art showing where pin 1 is. If you can make use of it in that
format, I'll get it to you.
hardware "hacks" and some general
repair information. I've been trolling
Needless to say you (or anyone else) is welcome to archive anything I
post to the list. If I want to control who reads something, I don't post
it to a mailing list ;-)
The last thing I plan to add is a single
directory with nothing but FAQ's,
for all kinds of machines, concentrated in one place. As some have pointed
out lately, many of the questions that are asked here are easily answered
by the appropriate FAQ; it's just a matter of digging it up. After I get
I've got the classicPERQ faqs somewhere, if you can't find those. Ditto
an overview (as a plain text file) of the operation of the PERQ3a CPU
board. If you want them and can't find them elsewhere, I'll get them to
you...
-tony
28 Nov
28 Nov
4:53 a.m.
New subject: FORSALE: Motorola 6800 Evaluation Kit
FOR SALE to the highest bidder by December 10, 1998:
Motorola M6800 Evaluation Kit II, in excellent condition. You can see
this unit on http://www.retrocomputing.com in the microcomputers section.
Includes: working board, hex keypad/display, cassette interface on the
unit, manual, a couple sheets of original handwritten programming and is
enclosed in a slightly yellowed but undamaged ring binder.
I'm not going to set a minimum bid but there aren't alot of these running
around, I know for a fact that this unit works because I've written
little programs on it, and it's complete as far as I know...so hopefully
all offers will be serious.
This is a nice unit and would make a nifty addition to any collection.
Please let me know whether your offer includes shipping or not. If there's
a tie then the earlier offer will be accepted. As I receive offers, I will
write down the date and time I received them, etc etc. To confirm
receipt of your offer, I will respond with the current highest bid so
you can revise your bid if desired.
(Just so there's no misunderstandings, payment can be made in the form of
check or money order. But, if it's by personal check, the item will not
be shipped until the check has cleared.)
Thanks...
Anthony Clifton, kc0cue
30 Nov
30 Nov
8:55 a.m.
New subject: UPDATE FORSALE: Motorola 6800 Evaluation Kit
I'm going to close the bidding on this item at an earlier date and wanted
to give potential bidders a heads-up. Bidding on this item will close
December 5, Saturday, on this item instead of December 10.
I've received several good bids on this item and feel it's unnecessary to
string the bidding out until the 10th.
BTW, because I believe in ClassicCmp and respect the folks here, I am
posting these items to the mailing list ONLY. They will not appear on
eBay or Usenet. I hope nobody minds. Also, I'm only posting one or
two items at a time to keep traffic down and to give everyone an
opportunity to bid on something.
Thanks...
Anthony Clifton, kc0cue
FOR SALE to the highest bidder by December 10, 1998:
Motorola M6800 Evaluation Kit II, in excellent condition. You can see
this unit on http://www.retrocomputing.com in the microcomputers section.
Includes: working board, hex keypad/display, cassette interface on the
unit, manual, a couple sheets of original handwritten programming and is
enclosed in a slightly yellowed but undamaged ring binder.
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