Like probably everyone else that *dosen't* have a KIM-1, I'm finally accepting that fact that I possibly never will. I know.... it still hurts. ( I know, I need a life... ) But, might I suggest a visceral replacement: the HP-5036A is a single board 8085 system, and it is COOLNESS exemplified. a display, keyboard, output leds, and (even a) speaker, and input switches are periphs that are usable through ported i/o, digital test points everywhere, several programs in rom, a very usalbe monitor for doing machine code (is that oxymoronic?) Overall, a very hands on system that encourages play and they can still be found and sometimes reasonably ( I think one went on ePay for $80 ). .. oh yeah, the board is beautiful. Anyone ever hear of any expansion options for this system using the edge connectors? Still, if anyone runs across a batch of KIMS ( especially a Rockwell variant... ) please keep me in mind. ;) Mike: dogas(a)leading.net