I don't believe this **** - test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org

5 Jan 1998

That's TERRIBLE.  I mean 486 parts can even get SOLD AS-IS for a decent sum
of money.  The whole system goes for a couple hundred.  So if they're going
to scrap 'em.... but anyway, lots of schools, non-profit orginazations, etc.
would love to have decent 386's, and 486's would be better.  Sure, you can't
play Quake on 'em, but a 386 was designed with 10 years of x86 software in
mind.
    And, as history has proven, it is easy to destroy, as the Romans,
Egyptians, Sumerians, and Greeks did, but it is so hard to CREATE and
PRESERVE.  That's why we must try to save these things.  Eventually, when
your or my XT is one of the last 60-75, we probably won't be alive, but the
future genereations will love seeing a working one.
    Well, there's my $0.02 on this.
Tim D. Hotze
-----Original Message-----
From: Zane H. Healy &lt;healyzh(a)ix.netcom.com&gt;
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
&lt;classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu&gt;
Date: Tuesday, January 06, 1998 4:51 AM
Subject: Re: I don't believe this ****

...
  At 07:43 AM
1/5/98 -0800, you wrote:
 Out of curiosity has anyone else with web pages
dealing with classic
computers been contacted by someone that wants to dispose of your
collection as scrap?  Talk about insulting!

 Zane 
  No, but sounds like a good candidate for a mail bombing!  I suppose he
wants you to ship it to him at your expense, right? 
I wouldn't doubt it.  Here is what she had to say, with my original answer,
I guess I should have added that I was also trying to save them from
individuals like she was talking about.

Initially I just thought she was fronting for someone that dealt in classic
computers, so her reply REALLY PISSED ME OFF!  Anything other than 486+
get's melted down for scrap?  I'm sorry, but that includes A LOT of systems
that there are a lot of people that would love to have them.  Besides
considering the fact that some of the systems I've got, like the Atari
TT030 go for several hundred dollars.

>Hi, Zane.
>
>> >Seems u have a lot of equipment, any surplus that you might give away?
I
...
    could get a
good price for u, if you are interested. 
 Um, No.  It's a hobby, and an attempt to preserve a part of our history
 that is steadily finding it's way into our landfills. 
My local dealer supply old comps or household appliance to iron, alloy
or plastic mills. They melt them down and supply these to manufacturers.

It's recycling.

486-and-above systems get refurbished...

Regards,
Crystal. 

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