12 Apr
1998
12 Apr
'98
12:42 p.m.
First stop it. Second, if you didn't understand it
I believe the comment
was sarcastic IE: we could find you a trs-80 case but since you've been
such a pain it has become highly unlikely.
Kind of right. I was saying that if it
was REALLY NEEDED and you couldn't
ignore a row of 5x4 keys or so on your TRS-80, that there's probably someone
who has either a spare case, or a will to trade their keypad-less TRS for
yours.
There was no offer to supply one and there was no
agreement save for you
trying to instigate one.
Exactly. However, seeing as it will make a fellow
collector happy, should I
stumble across the model you mention, I'll tell you, and probably pay for
half or more of the shipping.
A trs-80 with a keypad (one of the earliest options!)
is historically
valid. Also historically valid was lower case mod, 2x processor speed up
and several different ones applied to the cassette read. This is an
athoritive statment as I was in the employ for TANDY from 1976 through
1979 and did consulting for another year after that.
Exactly. For instance, I'm
getting a A2+ from Jeff Kaneko. At first, I
just knew that I was getting a II+. That was it. Since then, I've been
deligeted to find that it's 64K, has a DA/AD converter, serial cards, a
Pocket Rocket language card, etc. installed. I asked for an Apple II+. I'm
getting one. Sometimes, it's better than what you wanted, sometimes it's
worse, sometimes it's just different.
If you say you wanted the "first trs80" you
should have specified one
that must have the 170069A PWB, and no mods/option installed. That
would have gotten you a 4k L1 machine in the first production series
(under serial number 20,000 or so). You would have had to clarify if
serial number greater than 0 or 1 was acceptable. Your lack of
knowledge of RADIO SHACK computers and how they were sold from
introduction is your loss.
As well as your apparant lack of flexability, and poor
eMail writing skills.
In any case, let us "BAD PEOPLE" who "don't care if we've got a
conman
on our hands" be bad people with a conman on our hands and STOP BITCHING
ABOUT IT!!! Listen, you didn't get what you wanted. You did get what you
asked for. Cord's been on this list a LOT longer than you have. If we
annoy you, then unsubscribe. END OF STORY.
Tim D. Hotze
12 Apr
12 Apr
2:59 p.m.
We all live on conventions. When I tell somebody to switch the light off I
don't have to trell him/her that I want the light of the roon I am in to be
switched off and that he has to wlak towards the lgiht switch and that he/she
has to flick the witch on side or another. I just rely on past experience and
conventions and I expect the other person to behave in a conventional manner.
When I say that I waould like the very first model of a manufactured product
I, by convention, mean that I would like a sample of the first model which
came out (not a prototype), of the first series (not an upgraded and modified
one) etc. I have no doubts about the historical importance of a sreis one
TRS-80 with numeric keyboard. It is simply what I wan NOT looking for.
Anyway the matter in contest in NOT just that I have not got what I asked and
was promised but that the conman did not send it than about TRHEE MONTHS later
than I send my side of the deal (while swearing that he had sent it but
unfortunately he could not find the TWO receipts for it) and that even that
took some help from the keeper of this list to achieve. He (the conman)
probably relyied on the assumption that being so far away he could could get
away with it without much trouble. I never suggested that he would try this
locally as usually this kind of people are cowards and they are driven by
oppurtunistic motives and reasons.
Regards
enrico
Hotze wrote:
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========================================================
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Tel/fax(+01273) 701650 (24 hours) and 0498 692465 (mobile)
please visit my website at: <http://www.brighton-uk.com>
========================================================
First stop it. Second, if you didn't
understand it I believe the comment
was sarcastic IE: we could find you a trs-80 case but since you've been
such a pain it has become highly unlikely.
Kind of right. I was saying that if it
was REALLY NEEDED and you couldn't
ignore a row of 5x4 keys or so on your TRS-80, that there's probably someone
who has either a spare case, or a will to trade their keypad-less TRS for
yours.
There was no offer to supply one and there was no
agreement save for you
trying to instigate one.
Exactly. However, seeing as it will make a fellow
collector happy, should I
stumble across the model you mention, I'll tell you, and probably pay for
half or more of the shipping.
A trs-80 with a keypad (one of the earliest
options!) is historically
valid. Also historically valid was lower case mod, 2x processor speed up
and several different ones applied to the cassette read. This is an
athoritive statment as I was in the employ for TANDY from 1976 through
1979 and did consulting for another year after that.
Exactly. For instance,
I'm getting a A2+ from Jeff Kaneko. At first, I
just knew that I was getting a II+. That was it. Since then, I've been
deligeted to find that it's 64K, has a DA/AD converter, serial cards, a
Pocket Rocket language card, etc. installed. I asked for an Apple II+. I'm
getting one. Sometimes, it's better than what you wanted, sometimes it's
worse, sometimes it's just different.
If you say you wanted the "first trs80"
you should have specified one
that must have the 170069A PWB, and no mods/option installed. That
would have gotten you a 4k L1 machine in the first production series
(under serial number 20,000 or so). You would have had to clarify if
serial number greater than 0 or 1 was acceptable. Your lack of
knowledge of RADIO SHACK computers and how they were sold from
introduction is your loss.
As well as your apparant lack of flexability, and poor
eMail writing skills.
In any case, let us "BAD PEOPLE" who "don't care if we've got
a conman
on our hands" be bad people with a conman on our hands and STOP BITCHING
ABOUT IT!!! Listen, you didn't get what you wanted. You did get what you
asked for. Cord's been on this list a LOT longer than you have. If we
annoy you, then unsubscribe. END OF STORY.
Tim D. Hotze 
3:56 p.m.
The below is very untrue.... again, I don't care. Enrico, if you would like me to
try to help you further, my offer is still open. It's just.... well, what can I
do. You have turned down all my offers to try to help the situation. And, I don't
have a sample of the first TRS-80 made.
Come on.... how much more of this do we all have to take?!?!!?
Cord "ConMan" Coslor
Enrico Tedeschi wrote:
We all live on conventions. When I tell somebody to
switch the light off I
don't have to trell him/her that I want the light of the roon I am in to be
switched off and that he has to wlak towards the lgiht switch and that he/she
has to flick the witch on side or another. I just rely on past experience and
conventions and I expect the other person to behave in a conventional manner.
When I say that I waould like the very first model of a manufactured product
I, by convention, mean that I would like a sample of the first model which
came out (not a prototype), of the first series (not an upgraded and modified
one) etc. I have no doubts about the historical importance of a sreis one
TRS-80 with numeric keyboard. It is simply what I wan NOT looking for.
Anyway the matter in contest in NOT just that I have not got what I asked and
was promised but that the conman did not send it than about TRHEE MONTHS later
than I send my side of the deal (while swearing that he had sent it but
unfortunately he could not find the TWO receipts for it) and that even that
took some help from the keeper of this list to achieve. He (the conman)
probably relyied on the assumption that being so far away he could could get
away with it without much trouble. I never suggested that he would try this
locally as usually this kind of people are cowards and they are driven by
oppurtunistic motives and reasons.
Regards
enrico
Hotze wrote:
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Tel/fax(+01273) 701650 (24 hours) and 0498 692465 (mobile)
please visit my website at: <http://www.brighton-uk.com>
========================================================
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First stop it. Second, if you didn't
understand it I believe the comment
was sarcastic IE: we could find you a trs-80 case but since you've been
such a pain it has become highly unlikely.
Kind of right. I was saying that if it
was REALLY NEEDED and you couldn't
ignore a row of 5x4 keys or so on your TRS-80, that there's probably someone
who has either a spare case, or a will to trade their keypad-less TRS for
yours.
There was no offer to supply one and there was no
agreement save for you
trying to instigate one.
Exactly. However, seeing as it will make a fellow
collector happy, should I
stumble across the model you mention, I'll tell you, and probably pay for
half or more of the shipping.
A trs-80 with a keypad (one of the earliest
options!) is historically
valid. Also historically valid was lower case mod, 2x processor speed up
and several different ones applied to the cassette read. This is an
athoritive statment as I was in the employ for TANDY from 1976 through
1979 and did consulting for another year after that.
Exactly. For instance,
I'm getting a A2+ from Jeff Kaneko. At first, I
just knew that I was getting a II+. That was it. Since then, I've been
deligeted to find that it's 64K, has a DA/AD converter, serial cards, a
Pocket Rocket language card, etc. installed. I asked for an Apple II+. I'm
getting one. Sometimes, it's better than what you wanted, sometimes it's
worse, sometimes it's just different.
If you say you wanted the "first trs80"
you should have specified one
that must have the 170069A PWB, and no mods/option installed. That
would have gotten you a 4k L1 machine in the first production series
(under serial number 20,000 or so). You would have had to clarify if
serial number greater than 0 or 1 was acceptable. Your lack of
knowledge of RADIO SHACK computers and how they were sold from
introduction is your loss.
As well as your apparant lack of flexability, and poor
eMail writing skills.
In any case, let us "BAD PEOPLE" who "don't care if we've got
a conman
on our hands" be bad people with a conman on our hands and STOP BITCHING
ABOUT IT!!! Listen, you didn't get what you wanted. You did get what you
asked for. Cord's been on this list a LOT longer than you have. If we
annoy you, then unsubscribe. END OF STORY.
Tim D. Hotze
3:27 p.m.
It is this attitude (like yours) that brought the matter (unnecessarely) to
this point. If you would have not answered with all this arrogance and
aggressivity, the matter would have been finished a long time ago. I think we
all would expect all the subscribers to this list (and the other lists as
well) to conduct themselves in a civilized and honourable way instead of
insulting, offending and swearing to someone who might be wrong but who is
genuinely asking for help.
What would you have said if I did behave like the conman did? Are you sure you
are not defending a lost cause or, at least, to be superficial in your assumptions?
Regards
enrico
Hotze wrote:
--
========================================================
Enrico Tedeschi, 54 Easthill Drive, Brighton BN41 2FD, UK
Tel/fax(+01273) 701650 (24 hours) and 0498 692465 (mobile)
please visit my website at: <http://www.brighton-uk.com>
========================================================
First stop it. Second, if you didn't
understand it I believe the comment
was sarcastic IE: we could find you a trs-80 case but since you've been
such a pain it has become highly unlikely.
Kind of right. I was saying that if it
was REALLY NEEDED and you couldn't
ignore a row of 5x4 keys or so on your TRS-80, that there's probably someone
who has either a spare case, or a will to trade their keypad-less TRS for
yours.
There was no offer to supply one and there was no
agreement save for you
trying to instigate one.
Exactly. However, seeing as it will make a fellow
collector happy, should I
stumble across the model you mention, I'll tell you, and probably pay for
half or more of the shipping.
A trs-80 with a keypad (one of the earliest
options!) is historically
valid. Also historically valid was lower case mod, 2x processor speed up
and several different ones applied to the cassette read. This is an
athoritive statment as I was in the employ for TANDY from 1976 through
1979 and did consulting for another year after that.
Exactly. For instance,
I'm getting a A2+ from Jeff Kaneko. At first, I
just knew that I was getting a II+. That was it. Since then, I've been
deligeted to find that it's 64K, has a DA/AD converter, serial cards, a
Pocket Rocket language card, etc. installed. I asked for an Apple II+. I'm
getting one. Sometimes, it's better than what you wanted, sometimes it's
worse, sometimes it's just different.
If you say you wanted the "first trs80"
you should have specified one
that must have the 170069A PWB, and no mods/option installed. That
would have gotten you a 4k L1 machine in the first production series
(under serial number 20,000 or so). You would have had to clarify if
serial number greater than 0 or 1 was acceptable. Your lack of
knowledge of RADIO SHACK computers and how they were sold from
introduction is your loss.
As well as your apparant lack of flexability, and poor
eMail writing skills.
In any case, let us "BAD PEOPLE" who "don't care if we've got
a conman
on our hands" be bad people with a conman on our hands and STOP BITCHING
ABOUT IT!!! Listen, you didn't get what you wanted. You did get what you
asked for. Cord's been on this list a LOT longer than you have. If we
annoy you, then unsubscribe. END OF STORY.
Tim D. Hotze
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