In re-reading the PDP08 FAQs, I came across a mention that the older KK8E cards (three digit handle numbers) are somehow "broken". Can anyone elaborate? I have a couple of KK8E sets, one with the M833 timing module and M865 20mA- only TTY interface. What might be odd about them? I need to be able to use the M865 as I only have one M8650 KL8J interface (with two cables - one EIA and one 20mA, but the 20mA cable is missing the Berg housing - it's a bundle of loose connector pins on the interface end). Speaking of cables, I was attempting to build a new cable for my PDP-8/a and re-discovered a minor detail - the DKC8AA has this interesting feature - the EIA input and the TTL input to the serial hardware are not connected at the board level. There is this loopback wire that must be installed on the Berg connector to get the input data into the hardware. I remembered this after much frustration from the days when I used to get discarded cables from my former employer who made sync serial hardware. We shipped a nearly-fully- compatible cable with each and every one of our boards. All I need to do to convert these to PDP-8/a use is to add that jumper wire. If anyone is in need of a Berg-to-DB25 cable, let me know. I have a box of them that can be converted to PDP-8 use (for a nominal fee, of course ;-) -ethan ===== Infinet has been sold. The domain is going away in February. Please send all replies to erd(a)iname.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one place. Yahoo! Shopping: http://shopping.yahoo.com