On Wednesday 16 January 2008 04:32, Brent Hilpert wrote:
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Either way, once it has been set in the design, the
above-mentioned device
specs and characterisations are going to be determined and specified
relative to the preferred supply level. Note that manuf. specs typically
provide both absolute maximums (over which the device may be damaged), as
well as operating max/min within which the other specs are guaranteed. The
specs typically don't say that it won't actually work outside the operating
range
Yup. TTL for the most part I can remember as having a 7V maximum supply
voltage, and a 5.5V maximum on the inputs. I've seen projects, probably in
places like Popular Electronics or similar, that used either three or four D
cells to run a couple of chips, but it wasn't anything particularly
complicated or fast. Newer series with CMOS in there seems to be edging
downwards on those maximums.
Fairchild databooks generally have quite a treatise
about the functioning
of the internals of the IC families at the beginning of the book which can
make for interesting reading, TI books less so, in Nat Semi books it seems
to be non-existent.
Interesting. I have some Fairchild databooks which I'll probably be putting
online sometime soon, I think a National and definitely a TI in paper form
here, and I'd not really dug into them to the extent that I'd noticed that
difference.
A year or two ago there was a discussion on the list
where we were testing
a variety of 74x175's (albeit configured in an odd manner) for some PDP-8
front panel and were observing changing and idiosyncratic behaviour over a
very narrow operating voltage range.
Do you recall offhand what sorts of changes in behavior was being discussed?
I hope you're not looking to mimic TTL -
you'll have trouble sourcing
multi-emitter transistors in discrete form.
I seem to recall some wikipedia page referring to those as if they ever were
actually available. Not that I could say with any certainty that they
weren't, and if anybody knows otherwise please feel free to point me toward
info, but I've never seen them, or heard of them as discrete devices at
all.
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