No intent to defraud? Could have fooled me! When TCJ was owned by Bill Kibler they processed our credit card transactions, we were only a few miles apart and both Forthies. After Dave Baldwin took over TCJ my cost went up so we discouraged credit card transactions and only took a few overseas or medium-sized. I had/have complete trust and faith in Bill Kibler. He's an honorable man so I didn't follow things as well as I might have otherwise. Before too long Dave Baldwin owed me about two kilobucks and was months behind in reimbursement. Repeated telephone calls elicited, "I'm fine, you'll get your money." It never happened, the miserable piece of shit embezzled a lot of money from us. I doubt if you'll ever see another issue or get a penny back. Here's his local address and telephone numbers if you want to contact him directly: David Baldwin 6619 Westbrook Drive P.O. Box 3900 Citrus Heights, CA 95621 TCJ 722-4970 FAX 722-7480 DIBS 733-3877 BBS 722-5799 Feel free to abuse him and share my going public with his criminal activities. Regrettably the local sheriff tried to resolve things and got a small payment so the DA now refuses to prosecute because that legally turned the theft into a loan. Doesn't pay to be a nice guy, huh? -- Regards, Albert ------------------------------------------------- AM Research, Inc. The Embedded Systems Experts http://www.amresearch.com (800) 949-8051 -------------------------------------------------