11 Apr
2005
11 Apr
'05
11:17 p.m.
/* coming out of the shadows.... */
I'm planning on exhibiting my MOS Kim-1 at the Trenton Computer
Festival (http://www.tcf-nj.org) and it occurred to me that I don't
know what this computer is worth (whatever "worth" means).
**** I'm not interested in selling it ****
My Kim-1 works and is a Rev B MOS unit, with original blue-cover
manuals (as well as home brew case and a home brew 2k memory
expansion).
The only data point I have is a recent ebay auction, where 2 working
Kim-1s, nice enclosures, Kim Extender Interface, 4 memory cards, S100
breadboarding card, issues of "Micro", etc went for $642. The item
description doesn't mention Rev #, or even whether its a MOS or
Commodore (though the photo shows *white* manuals).
So... roughly $300 for a Kim-1?
Thanks!
Scott
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12 Apr
12 Apr
9:27 p.m.
On Mon, 11 Apr 2005, Scott Austin wrote:
So... roughly $300 for a Kim-1?
$100-$150 is more like it.
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9:56 p.m.
On Mon, 11 Apr 2005 20:17:19 -0700 (PDT)
Scott Austin <us21090 at yahoo.com> wrote:
/* coming out of the shadows.... */
I'm planning on exhibiting my MOS Kim-1 at the Trenton Computer
Festival (http://www.tcf-nj.org) and it occurred to me that I don't
know what this computer is worth (whatever "worth" means).
**** I'm not interested in selling it ****
My Kim-1 works and is a Rev B MOS unit, with original blue-cover
manuals (as well as home brew case and a home brew 2k memory
expansion).
The only data point I have is a recent ebay auction, where 2 working
Kim-1s, nice enclosures, Kim Extender Interface, 4 memory cards, S100
breadboarding card, issues of "Micro", etc went for $642. The item
description doesn't mention Rev #, or even whether its a MOS or
Commodore (though the photo shows *white* manuals).
So... roughly $300 for a Kim-1?
Thanks!
Scott
All the extra stuff you listed needs to be included in that $642, and is
worth more than the $42 you account to it.
More data points are needed. I sold my second SYM-1 (not the same
thing, but somewhat close) which was just the main board, and the main
manual, to someone in Japan for about $130 a few years back (the one I
kept is complete, serial-number-matches-that-on-box, etc. etc.)
-----topic drift below-----
Being the 'root for the underdog' sort of person, I'd say 'Synertec
rulez, MOS sux' (early version of the AMD vs. Intel fanboy scene??)
((even earlier, the Zilog versus Intel 8080 conflict?))
So where's the fight between the Intersil versus Harris 6100 processor
fanboys?? (My tubes of 6100s are all Harris)
10:42 p.m.
New subject: SYM-1 vs KIM-1 (was Re: MOS Kim-1 Any idea of it's worth/value?)
On 4/12/05, Scott Stevens <chenmel at earthlink.net> wrote:
Being the 'root for the underdog' sort of
person, I'd say 'Synertec rulez, MOS sux'
Well... since I _have_ a SYM-1, and had the books for it many, many
years prior to locating the computer (like 20 years earlier), I'm
pretty fond of the SYM-1. I also like the fact that the SYM-1 does
_not_ use mask programmed parts (but the KIM-1 does). Other than
that, they are really about the same machine. From a programming
standpoint, I am unaware of any significant differences. I know they
could share peripherals.
Speaking of peripherals, I remember lots of ads back in the day,
including one for an S-100 chassis for the SYM/KIM. I'd love to see
schematics for that, especially since if I ever have one, I'll
probably have to make my own rather than find one in the wild. I have
a few S-100 cards now (something I didn't have back in my PET days),
and it might be fun to do some driver coding for interesting things.
I _do_ have (somewhere) the stuff relevant to hooking Commodore IEC
peripherals (1541, 1520, 1526...) to a SYM. That's another thing that
would be fun to implement... disks and files on a 6502 SBC.
So many 6502 projects, so little time.
-ethan
13 Apr
13 Apr
12:23 p.m.
New subject: SYM-1 vs KIM-1 (was Re: MOS Kim-1 Any idea of it's worth/value?)
I have a like new black metal case with wooden sides and a small wooden top
door for one of my Sym-1's. I got it and the Sym-1 from the original owner
(I got the receipt for the case $199.99) a few years back.
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To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
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Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 9:42 PM
Subject: SYM-1 vs KIM-1 (was Re: MOS Kim-1 Any idea of it's worth/value?)
On 4/12/05, Scott Stevens <chenmel at
earthlink.net> wrote:
Being the 'root for the underdog' sort of
person, I'd say 'Synertec
rulez, MOS sux'
Well... since I _have_ a SYM-1, and had the books for it many, many
years prior to locating the computer (like 20 years earlier), I'm
pretty fond of the SYM-1. I also like the fact that the SYM-1 does
_not_ use mask programmed parts (but the KIM-1 does). Other than
that, they are really about the same machine. From a programming
standpoint, I am unaware of any significant differences. I know they
could share peripherals.
Speaking of peripherals, I remember lots of ads back in the day,
including one for an S-100 chassis for the SYM/KIM. I'd love to see
schematics for that, especially since if I ever have one, I'll
probably have to make my own rather than find one in the wild. I have
a few S-100 cards now (something I didn't have back in my PET days),
and it might be fun to do some driver coding for interesting things.
I _do_ have (somewhere) the stuff relevant to hooking Commodore IEC
peripherals (1541, 1520, 1526...) to a SYM. That's another thing that
would be fun to implement... disks and files on a 6502 SBC.
So many 6502 projects, so little time.
-ethan
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