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Yes, I'm in high school. Work in California? Not sure - what are you doing out there? What I'm really good at is telling Unix what to do. I also know I'm 4th generation hacker. My friend Jeff is not too far behind me. As far as I KNOW, we may be the last 2. Giving allowances, there may be 5 or 10 REAL hackers left. It's somewhat depressing to be the last of something... but if I can find someone before I leave here (Illinois) and show him the correct way to go, maybe I can create another... The name hacker has been dragged through the mud for far too long. There's almost no real record of the 1st and 2nd generation hacks. (1st were the hacks at MIT. 2nd were those at Berkeley and elsewhere, who adjusted the Hacker Ethic to allow for making money. 3rd are the present-day warez loosers. [They're here for refrence. Technically, they don't count]) All that survives to the actual public is the image of some cybernerd on drugs with wild hair maliciously attacking big companies just to be a punk. My brother hates computers, and he's closer to THAT description than I am. Of course, I'm still not as good as the 1st-gen guys. I can't solder any good, I have nearly no idea how to wire-wrap or use a slide rule, and I can't do number conversion in my head yet. I'm not very good at math. (I can do it with a calculator, but I tend to drop numbers left and right with big variables) I still have some to go... -------

[Sending in public] That's alright. I've already done it too many times... [The book _Hackers_] Sounds good, I'll go see if I can locate a copy somewhere. I have a copy of _The Hacker Crackdown_, it's on my 486 at home. In electronic form. Do you have a copy? It's pretty good, and it's freely distributable (The author calls it "literary freeware") [Myths (slide rules and etc.)] True... I'm not going to need them much... Actually, I can wirewrap in a way - I can operate a punchdown tool. That's kinda the same thing - and I used that a lot to run 'phone cables. I'm gonna be doing it in about 2 days again, we're hanging a modem off the Linux box here so me and a few of the teachers can get free internet. (I already have free internet, I'm the admin at umtec.) I'll probably never have to KNOW how to use a slide rule, unless I get a pilot's liscense and have to use one of those navigation calculators. They have electronic versions, but all I've ever heard of them is that they fail at the worst times... Of course, I won't really KNOW until I go try it. Maybe after I graduate and can afford it. I had a friend who was going to teach me, but he died 1 day before I was supposed to go up with him. His VariEze flipped on him during final approach, he hit a fence, inverted, and dug a rut. The weight of the aircraft prevented him from breathing. I wasn't there. They dug around for why he crashed for awhile. I was never told what the FAA said, but I have my own theory. He'd added a headlight to the very nose of the craft. If you've never seen a VariEze, it's a little pusher-prop affair invented by Burt Rutan. (He made Voyager.) It's also a canard aircraft. That means that the tailplane is out front, holding the nose up. You've seen the pictures of the cube in the wind tunnel before, right? The airstream comes off at a 45deg angle. With that relativley flat surface at the nose of the plane instead of the sleek nosecone it was supposed to have, the wind did similar, blanking the inner 1/2 to 1/4 of the elevator. This worked OK at higher speeds, the lift generated was enough to work. But, low and slow with the added weight of his son in the back, there simply wasn't enough lift to keep the nose flying. So, down it went. The bad part was, he was giving his son a ride as his 16th birthday present. Anyway, enough of that... That's one of the bad points to a line editor, you can't edit the message much afore you send it! You asked if I'd come to California and work... not sure. What are you doing out there? -------

I was thinking more along the lines of driving you crazy (sorry, I couldn't resist, just remembering the wirewrapped engineering consoles in the Navy). Zane | Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Adminstrator | | healyzh(a)ix.netcom.com (primary) | Linux Enthusiast | | healyzh(a)holonet.net (alternate) | Classic Computer Collector | +----------------------------------+----------------------------+ | For Empire of the Petal Throne and Traveller Role Playing, | | see http://www.dragonfire.net/~healyzh/ | | For the collecting of Classic Computers with info on them. | | see http://www.dragonfire.net/~healyzh/museum.html |

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