18 Oct
2012
18 Oct
'12
11:13 a.m.
Guess what computer I brought back from the dead?
http://raspberry-python.blogspot.com/2012/10/it-lives-hint-1.html
I'm thinking somebody on this list has used one and will recognize it.
Just a simple screenshot to start with...
It's Applesoft, but says "PRESS RESET" at the top, so.... an Apple II (not
plus) with Applesoft language card? Or upgraded with Applesoft ROMs?
Personally I like Integer Basic :-)
Tim.
18 Oct
18 Oct
11:26 a.m.
On 18 October 2012 19:13, Shoppa, Tim <tshoppa at wmata.com> wrote:
Personally I like Integer Basic :-)
It's much faster.
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10:49 p.m.
Weren?t there some Apple clones produced in China / Eastern Europe?
Regards
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Rod Smallwood
?
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Sent: 18 October 2012 19:13
To: cctalk at classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: It lives!
Guess what computer I brought back from the dead?
http://raspberry-python.blogspot.com/2012/10/it-lives-hint-1.html
I'm thinking somebody on this list has used one and will recognize it.
Just a simple screenshot to start with...
It's Applesoft, but says "PRESS RESET" at the top, so.... an Apple II (not
plus) with Applesoft language card? Or upgraded with Applesoft ROMs?
Personally I like Integer Basic :-)
Tim.
19 Oct
19 Oct
5:15 a.m.
I think there were "a lot". Lots of unlicensed clones in Taiwan from what I
heard.
Legit clones (again I think) like Franklin Ace and Laser were around. I think Apple got
pissy though and tried to restrict the clone market.
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Subject: RE: It lives!
Weren?t there some Apple clones produced in China / Eastern Europe?
Regards
?
Rod Smallwood
?
?
-----Original Message-----
From: cctech-bounces at classiccmp.org [mailto:cctech-bounces at classiccmp.org]
On Behalf Of Shoppa, Tim
Sent: 18 October 2012 19:13
To: cctalk at classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: It lives!
Guess what computer I brought back from the dead?
http://raspberry-python.blogspot.com/2012/10/it-lives-hint-1.html
I'm thinking somebody on this list has used one and will recognize it.
Just a simple screenshot to start with...
It's Applesoft, but says "PRESS RESET" at the top, so.... an Apple II (not
plus) with Applesoft language card? Or upgraded with Applesoft ROMs?
Personally I like Integer Basic :-)
Tim.
5:30 a.m.
On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 8:15 AM, <barythrin at gmail.com> wrote:
I think there were "a lot". Lots of
unlicensed clones in Taiwan from what I heard.
Legit clones (again I think) like Franklin Ace and Laser were around. I think Apple got
pissy though and tried to restrict the clone market.
I'm wondering if it is some kind of Multibus or S-100 6502-based
system with Apple ROMs? Is that even possible?
5:56 p.m.
That was by far one of the most interesting suggestion I have read on
any of the lists and forums that this was posted to. The weird thing
is that Apple ][ slots have 50 pins, but the 2 external slots are 44
pins and longer.
Francois
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On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 8:30 AM, Jonathan Katz <jon at jonworld.com> wrote:
On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 8:15 AM, <barythrin at
gmail.com> wrote:
I think there were "a lot". Lots of
unlicensed clones in Taiwan from what I heard.
Legit clones (again I think) like Franklin Ace and Laser were around. I think Apple got
pissy though and tried to restrict the clone market.
I'm wondering if it is some kind of Multibus or S-100 6502-based
system with Apple ROMs? Is that even possible? 
6:24 p.m.
On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 08:56:23PM -0400, Francois Dion wrote:
That was by far one of the most interesting suggestion
I have read on
any of the lists and forums that this was posted to. The weird thing
is that Apple ][ slots have 50 pins, but the 2 external slots are 44
pins and longer.
Not a KIMBUS perchance?
- Diane
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26 Oct
26 Oct
9 a.m.
New subject: Downsizing. Free hardware to a good home
Hi,
I think this is on-topic? If not, I apologize. I'll send it to both groups just in
case.
I have a bit of downsizing I need to do. I have bunch of hardware I'm letting go. I
don't have a fully accurate inventory of the software that goes with it, but here is
some of hardware:
- a couple of Kaypros
- a couple of Osbornes
- one or two IBM PCs (the portable plasma models, I forget the model number)
- Xerox 820
- Baby system 36. I think it is a 5362. I might have a 5363 as well.
- Various software for all of the above.
- one or two IBM PC Juniors, one is new in box
I might throw in my IBM 5150, which is in original boxes but is not working due to a power
supply problem, as well.
The only restriction is that you have to come get it. I am in the Denver area. I'll
offer it up to this group first, before advertising wider.
And, if you have a really big truck and want something really special, I have a bit System
36 (5360) and 5225 Printer and a bunch of monitors and twinax cables, manuals, diskettes,
etc. This system worked great the last time I fired it up, about a year ago. I can test it
again if you are serious about it. You'll need a truck with a lift gate to transport
it.
Again, I'm not shipping anything. You have to arrange for pickup or come get it
yourself!
Contact me off list if you are interested. Have patience for an answer as I have a busy
work schedule coming up.
Paul
11:04 a.m.
New subject: Downsizing. Free hardware to a good home
Paul,
I'm interested in the kapro and osborne stuff at the least.
I'm in Pueblo, but I can drive up.
Let me know how you would like to arrange it.
Kevin
Subject: Downsizing. Free hardware to a good home
From: paul0926 at comcast.net
Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 10:00:58 -0600
To: cctech at classiccmp.org
CC: cctalk at classiccmp.org
Hi,
I think this is on-topic? If not, I apologize. I'll send it to both groups just in
case.
I have a bit of downsizing I need to do. I have bunch of hardware I'm letting go. I
don't have a fully accurate inventory of the software that goes with it, but here is
some of hardware:
- a couple of Kaypros
- a couple of Osbornes
- one or two IBM PCs (the portable plasma models, I forget the model number)
- Xerox 820
- Baby system 36. I think it is a 5362. I might have a 5363 as well.
- Various software for all of the above.
- one or two IBM PC Juniors, one is new in box
I might throw in my IBM 5150, which is in original boxes but is not working due to a
power supply problem, as well.
The only restriction is that you have to come get it. I am in the Denver area. I'll
offer it up to this group first, before advertising wider.
And, if you have a really big truck and want something really special, I have a bit
System 36 (5360) and 5225 Printer and a bunch of monitors and twinax cables, manuals,
diskettes, etc. This system worked great the last time I fired it up, about a year ago. I
can test it again if you are serious about it. You'll need a truck with a lift gate to
transport it.
Again, I'm not shipping anything. You have to arrange for pickup or come get it
yourself!
Contact me off list if you are interested. Have patience for an answer as I have a busy
work schedule coming up.
Paul
19 Oct
19 Oct
7:47 a.m.
The fourth clue is up. Some of the innards.
http://raspberry-python.blogspot.com/2012/10/it-lives-hint-4.html
To be a little more specific about my guess... Rev 0 Apple II, with lower-case hardware
keyboard mod (e.g. not the shift-key-to-game-port wire), lower-case graphics mod, and
either Language card or Applesoft-ROM-on-motherboard. I ought to be able to look at the
chroma section of the motherboard and see if it really is Rev 0.
I'm still racking my brain, figuring out whether the "PRESS RESET" comes
from a different F8 ROM on the motherboard, or a different F8 ROM on the language card, or
something else. I know I've seen that before but cannot remember the permutation.
Could it come from the lower case mod? Oh, now I don't know where it could come from
anymore at all!
Out of curiosity... if it has INTBASIC on the motherboard, does it have the
"Programmers Aid" ROM? Had some Hi-Res and sound callable routines etc?
Haven't seen that in ages and ages.
Tim.
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