7 Oct
2016
7 Oct
'16
1:32 a.m.
Here's a scan - and special bonus audio tracks - of a brochure and 7"
record I found on ebay recently:
http://chiclassiccomp.org/docs/index.php?dir=%2Fcomputing/EG%26G
"Data on a Platter" from a company called EG&G (anyone heard of them?)
describes their vinyl (as in analog audio record) data storage scheme
and how it will fit into your business. There's no date anywhere but
the brochure is a great example of 60s typefaces, not to mention
language. The recording includes examples of how the data sounds if
played on a regular phonograph. Who's up for decoding it?
-j
7 Oct
7 Oct
2:01 a.m.
On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 10:32 PM, Jason T <silent700 at gmail.com> wrote:
Here's a scan - and special bonus audio tracks -
of a brochure and 7"
record I found on ebay recently:
http://chiclassiccomp.org/docs/index.php?dir=%2Fcomputing/EG%26G
"Data on a Platter" from a company called EG&G (anyone heard of them?)
describes their vinyl (as in analog audio record) data storage scheme
and how it will fit into your business.
Groovy.
"EG&G (anyone heard of them?)"
The 'E' in "EG&G" is for Harold Eugene "Doc" Edgerton, who
is famous
for his pioneering work in strobe photography. He was quite a legend
as a professor at MIT.
2:04 a.m.
On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 1:01 AM, Glen Slick <glen.slick at gmail.com> wrote:
The 'E' in "EG&G" is for Harold
Eugene "Doc" Edgerton, who is famous
for his pioneering work in strobe photography. He was quite a legend
as a professor at MIT.
Yeah, another list member sent me their Wiki link, which I somehow
didn't find in my (admittedly brief) search:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EG%26G
Quite a history, there.
10:27 a.m.
The 'E' in "EG&G" is for Harold
Eugene "Doc" Edgerton, who is famous
for his pioneering work in strobe photography. He was quite a legend
as a professor at MIT.
I went to school with his grandson Eric, and his son Bob was my High School Physics
teacher.
Needless to say, we did *A LOT* of stroboscope experiments!
I believe Bob went on to work for Stan Ovshinsky at Energy Conversion Devices (creator of
NiMH batteries among other cool things.)
11:57 a.m.
On 10/07/2016 01:01 AM, Glen Slick wrote:
On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 10:32 PM, Jason T <silent700
at gmail.com> wrote:
Yup, I got a tour of MIT, and at one point the guide left me
and my parents in a room. The walls were lined with
glass-front cabinets, filled with hunting rifles. I was
baffled for a bit, and then realized "WOW, this is Harold
Edgerton's lab!!!"
EG&G is Edgerton, Germeshausen and Grier, Inc. I don't know
much about the other two guys.
Jon
Here's a scan - and special bonus audio
tracks - of a brochure and 7"
record I found on ebay recently:
http://chiclassiccomp.org/docs/index.php?dir=%2Fcomputing/EG%26G
"Data on a Platter" from a company called EG&G (anyone heard of them?)
describes their vinyl (as in analog audio record) data storage scheme
and how it will fit into your business.
Groovy.
"EG&G (anyone heard of them?)"
The 'E' in "EG&G" is for Harold Eugene "Doc" Edgerton,
who is famous
for his pioneering work in strobe photography. He was quite a legend
as a professor at MIT.
2:03 a.m.
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Subject: Data on a Platter!
From: "Jason T" <silent700 at gmail.com>
Date: Fri, October 7, 2016 3:32 pm
To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk at
classiccmp.org>
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Here's a scan - and special bonus audio tracks -
of a brochure and 7"
record I found on ebay recently:
http://chiclassiccomp.org/docs/index.php?dir=%2Fcomputing/EG%26G
"Data on a Platter" from a company called EG&G (anyone heard of them?)
describes their vinyl (as in analog audio record) data storage scheme
and how it will fit into your business. There's no date anywhere but
the brochure is a great example of 60s typefaces, not to mention
language. The recording includes examples of how the data sounds if
played on a regular phonograph. Who's up for decoding it?
-j
Wow! Grooooo-vy! And really for the (italics)now generation as it says.
Surmising it was from no earlier than 1967 as the phrase 'Listen Here' could
well allude to the popular (ok, awesome) jazz piece by Eddie Harris that
came out in that year (it's on Youtube). It also mentions 'during later 1970
and 1971' so I'd say 1969/70 as a guess. I wonder if any of those devices
still exist?
Thanks for the interesting post,
Steve.
2:14 a.m.
On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 1:03 AM, <steven at malikoff.com> wrote:
came out in that year (it's on Youtube). It also
mentions 'during later 1970
and 1971' so I'd say 1969/70 as a guess. I wonder if any of those devices
Oh yes, they did say that. I think that may give us a date, then.
I was also going to ask if anyone knew of any other examples of
phonograph records used to store data. The only one I'm aware of is
the flexi-discs that came in early-80s computer magazines. It was
either Kilobaud of Interface Age that had them. They'd contain a
carrier tone you could play into a modem (IIRC) and they'd "download"
(ASCII dump, really) the programs from that issue. I have many mags
with the records in them but have never tried decoding one.
j
2:45 a.m.
On Fri, Oct 07, 2016 at 01:14:06AM -0500, Jason T wrote:
I was also going to ask if anyone knew of any other examples of
phonograph records used to store data. The only one I'm aware of is
the flexi-discs that came in early-80s computer magazines.
Yes, there is a swedish band "Adolphson & Falk" which had a data-track
on one of their records. It was the last track on the B side of "?ver
tid och rum". They never mentioned it and likely left there as a sort of
pussle. It turns out it is a program for Atari 800 [1].
Also, when I visited the Museum of Computer Games in Berlin [2], they
had vinyl record with Basic. Turns out that floppies was hard to come by
in the old east block and vinyl was used in some cases instead.
[1] http://retro.faidros.net/af.html
[2] http://www.computerspielemuseum.de/1210_Home.htm
/P
10:59 a.m.
On 10/6/16 11:14 PM, Jason T wrote:
I was also going to ask if anyone knew of any other
examples of
phonograph records used to store data.
Inner City Unit's "Spectrum Program" is mentioned on the Wikipedia page
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZX_Spectrum_software
I actually played it once on my radio show.
9 Oct
9 Oct
9:46 p.m.
On 8 Oct 2016, at 1:04 AM, Al Kossow <aek at
bitsavers.org> wrote:
Pete Shelley's 1983 album XL1 had a data track for the Sinclair ZX Spectrum. It
contained graphics to go along with all the music, kind of tricky to get it in sync.
On 10/6/16 11:14 PM, Jason T wrote:
It was
either Kilobaud of Interface Age that had them.
Interface Age
I have a couple that I just ran across again that I need to digitize
There was just a discussion about these on the MAME developers list.
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