4 Oct
2007
4 Oct
'07
10:32 a.m.
Am I correct that the only "new" DSDD 5.25" floppies would be "New Old
Stock".
Zane
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4 Oct
4 Oct
11 a.m.
And thusly were the wise words spake by Zane H. Healy
Am I correct that the only "new" DSDD 5.25" floppies would be "New
Old Stock".
No.. http://www.athana.com still sells new 5.25" floppies. They
even stock 8" floppies!
Cheers,
Bryan
11:20 a.m.
Bryan Pope wrote:
And thusly were the wise words spake by Zane H. Healy
But when were they manufactured? I'm reasonably certain there's noone
left making 8" floppy drives today. Hence, "new old stock".
Peace... Sridhar
Am I correct that the only "new" DSDD
5.25" floppies would be "New Old Stock".
No.. http://www.athana.com still sells new 5.25" floppies. They
even stock 8" floppies!
11:37 a.m.
And thusly were the wise words spake by Sridhar Ayengar
Bryan Pope wrote:
According to a posting on the Vintage Computer forum webpage from
November of last year at:
http://www.vintage-computer.com/vcforum/showthread.php?t=5069&highlight…
This is the response to that question:
And thusly were the wise words spake by Zane H.
Healy
But when were they manufactured? I'm reasonably certain there's noone
left making 8" floppy drives today. Hence, "new old stock".
Am I correct that the only "new" DSDD
5.25" floppies would be "New Old Stock".
No.. http://www.athana.com still sells new 5.25" floppies. They
even stock 8" floppies! We do manufactured this products and is made as
order comes in , this product is not setting for
years on our warehouse
We still manufactured 8" Diskettes. Yes, you can
pick up your order between 8 AM - 1PM Monday thru
Friday
Cheers,
Bryan
12:01 p.m.
Bryan Pope wrote:
And thusly were the wise words spake by Sridhar
Ayengar
That's fine for the floppies, but I was talking about the drives themselves.
Peace... Sridhar
Bryan Pope wrote:
According to a posting on the Vintage Computer forum webpage from
November of last year at:
http://www.vintage-computer.com/vcforum/showthread.php?t=5069&highlight…
This is the response to that question:
> We do manufactured this products and is made as
> order comes in , this product is not setting for
> years on our warehouse
> We still manufactured 8" Diskettes. Yes, you can
> pick up your order between 8 AM - 1PM Monday thru
> Friday And thusly were the wise words spake by Zane H.
Healy
But when were they manufactured? I'm reasonably
certain there's noone
left making 8" floppy drives today. Hence, "new old stock".
Am I correct that the only "new" DSDD
5.25" floppies would be "New Old Stock".
No.. http://www.athana.com still sells new 5.25" floppies. They
even stock 8" floppies! 
12:07 p.m.
On Thursday 04 October 2007, Sridhar Ayengar wrote:
But I think that the OP was talking about floppy disks, else they would
have surely said "floppy drives"...
Pat
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>> And
thusly were the wise words spake by Zane H. Healy
>>
>>> Am I correct that the only "new" DSDD 5.25" floppies would be
>>> "New Old Stock".
That's fine for the floppies, but I was
talking about the drives
themselves.
12:22 p.m.
At 3:07 PM -0400 10/4/07, Patrick Finnegan wrote:
But I think that the OP was talking about floppy disks,
else they would
have surely said "floppy drives"...
I was, I know no one is making new C-1541 drives. Though I'm looking
into building a 1541-III drive...
Zane
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9:37 p.m.
I was, I know
no one is making new C-1541 drives. Though I'm looking
into building a 1541-III drive...
This CBM know-nothing is curious why a 1541 would be better than a
1571?
5 Oct
5 Oct
12:01 a.m.
At 9:37 PM -0700 10/4/07, Cameron Kaiser wrote:
This CBM know-something doesn't understand that either :) the 1571 is much
less prone to alignment problems and can be easily coerced into reading many
more formats. It is a very versatile disk drive.
And you all seem to have missed what I'm referring to. :^) Note the
"III" portion of 1541-III. :^)
http://jderogee.tripod.com/project1541.htm
I'm about ready to start collecting the parts needed and to see about
getting at least a couple circuit boards made. I figure having an
extra or two won't hurt in case I mess up a circuit board while
building the device. I've been working on some modifications to my
C-64, and since I borrowed an Optivisor
(http://www.doneganoptical.com/optivisor.php) I'm finding it a lot
easier to do soldering, so I'm almost brave enough to attempt this.
BTW, I currently have 3-5 1541's, 1 1571, and 1 or 2 Excelerator+Plus
(minus power-supplies) drives. I tend to use a pair of the 1541's.
Though the 1571 is at home rather than lost up in storage. :^) I use
the 1541's as I don't have a spare 1571. I prefer to only use drives
if I have a spare.
Zane
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I was, I know no one is making new C-1541 drives.
Though I'm looking
into building a 1541-III drive...
This CBM know-nothing is curious why a 1541 would be better than a
1571? 
11:22 a.m.
On 5 Oct 2007 at 0:01, Zane H. Healy wrote:
And you all seem to have missed what I'm referring
to. :^) Note the
"III" portion of 1541-III. :^)
http://jderogee.tripod.com/project1541.htm
Zane, it still doesn't answer my question. "Why emulate a 1541 when
you could just as easily emulate a 1571?"
Sorry for my blockheadedness, but I'm still not clear on this.
Cheers,
Chuck
12:56 p.m.
On Fri, 5 Oct 2007, Chuck Guzis wrote:
On 5 Oct 2007 at 0:01, Zane H. Healy wrote:
Maybe because the 1541 is a simpler first step? I wish I saw this project
earlier so I could have gotten in on the group buy of PCBs. Since this
thing is powered by a PIC18, the firmware source is available, and is
easily reprogrammable, hacking in 1571 support shouldn't be too hard.
This thing looks like just the thing I need to quickly have some fun with
my old C64.
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dgriffi at cs.csubak.edu
And you all seem to have missed what I'm
referring to. :^) Note the
"III" portion of 1541-III. :^)
http://jderogee.tripod.com/project1541.htm
Zane, it still doesn't answer my question. "Why emulate a 1541 when
you could just as easily emulate a 1571?"
Sorry for my blockheadedness, but I'm still not clear on this.
1:27 p.m.
New subject: 1541 vs 1571 was New DSDD 5.25" floppies?
Changing subject line ;)
Maybe because the 1541 is a simpler first step?
That's what I was going to say also. The 1571 is a considerably more complex
(being more versatile) unit. Emulating a 1541 is hard enough due to how
exploited its intelligent architecture was by software authors.
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And you all seem to have missed what I'm referring
to. :^) Note the
"III" portion of 1541-III. :^)
http://jderogee.tripod.com/project1541.htm
Zane, it still doesn't answer my question. "Why emulate a 1541 when
you could just as easily emulate a 1571?"
Sorry for my blockheadedness, but I'm still not clear on this. 
1:23 p.m.
On 05/10/2007, Chuck Guzis <cclist at sydex.com> wrote:
On 5 Oct 2007 at 0:01, Zane H. Healy wrote:
Well, as no actual disks are involved and the transfer speeds of the
media are probably half a dozen orders of magnitude faster than an
actual floppy disk, why bother? It's not a disk drive. It's a way to
load games and things from modern media into a vintage computer. Why
not go for maximum software compatibility and emulate the most
widespread and commonly-supported disk drive, especially if it will
save effort?
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And you all seem to have missed what I'm
referring to. :^) Note the
"III" portion of 1541-III. :^)
http://jderogee.tripod.com/project1541.htm
Zane, it still doesn't answer my question. "Why emulate a 1541 when
you could just as easily emulate a 1571?"
Sorry for my blockheadedness, but I'm still not clear on this.
2:24 p.m.
On 5 Oct 2007 at 0:01, Zane H. Healy wrote:
Actually *THAT* is a good question! :^) Currently it works with .D64 files,
but the developer is apparently looking into adding .D71 and .D81 support.
I would guess it was developed to support the majority of software/games out
there, which in turn supported C-1541 drives. But that is just a guess.
Zane
And you all seem to have missed what I'm
referring to. :^) Note the
"III" portion of 1541-III. :^)
http://jderogee.tripod.com/project1541.htm
Zane, it still doesn't answer my question. "Why emulate a 1541 when
you could just as easily emulate a 1571?"
Sorry for my blockheadedness, but I'm still not clear on this.
Cheers,
Chuck
4 Oct
4 Oct
12:45 p.m.
Patrick Finnegan wrote:
On Thursday 04 October 2007, Sridhar Ayengar wrote:
But I think that the OP was talking about floppy disks, else they would
have surely said "floppy drives"...
Ah. My bad.
Peace... Sridhar
>>
And thusly were the wise words spake by Zane H. Healy
>>
>>> Am I correct that the only "new" DSDD 5.25" floppies would be
>>> "New Old Stock".
That's fine for the floppies, but I was
talking about the drives
themselves. 
11:35 a.m.
Getting harder to find them in NOS and they are catching a premium on
the pricing for a 1/2 height 1.2mb 5.25" I actually picked up a few
combo 3.5/5.25 drives in 1/2 height formfactor as many cases only have 2
bays and space is getting tight.
Curt
Zane H. Healy wrote:
Am I correct that the only "new" DSDD
5.25" floppies would be "New Old
Stock".
Zane
12:30 p.m.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Zane H. Healy" <healyzh at aracnet.com>
To: <classiccmp at classiccmp.org>
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 11:32 AM
Subject: New DSDD 5.25" floppies?
Am I correct that the only "new" DSDD
5.25" floppies would be "New Old
Stock".
There is a company in California that still manufactures them
(http://www.athana.com).
Jim
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