31 Oct
2004
31 Oct
'04
4:48 a.m.
Hi all,
did a little work on cp/m in the good old days, and thinking about
getting at least one machine up again. As it would be mostly for having
fun with the z80 again (or 8085, z180, z280?), I'm probably not
interested too much in having any of the collector grade machines.
So, the question is, what is the best cp/m machine for playing with the
software ?
cheers & thanks
31 Oct
31 Oct
5:36 a.m.
Emanuel wrote:
So, the question is, what is the best cp/m machine for
playing with the
software ?
I'd say a Kaypro. They can be had at very low cost -- or free -- and
they come up all the time. The floppy systems are very reliable with just a
few well-known trouble points. The hard disk model, Kaypro 10, would be
nice but it would be hard to find one working now. They were hard to keep
working even when new.
There was a ton of detailed information on these in several magazines.
I'd recommend a Kaypro 2x if you have a choice, because of the double-sided,
half-height floppy drives. I kept one because it's easy to copy disks in
any Kaypro format. You can also read and write almost any CP/M format
floppy with the "Uniform" software, plus MSDOS format.
I used to have a Kaypro dealership back in the day, so I could answer
most questions after you do your due diligence on Google.
Paul Pennington
Augusta, Georgia
5:59 a.m.
I'd like to get a Kaypro 2 also. I use a Commodore 128DCR but all of
the software I use is for a Kaypro 2. At least the C-128D reads and
writes Kaypro 2 disks as well as it's own format.
James
Paul A. Pennington wrote:
I'd say a Kaypro. They can be had at very low cost -- or free --
and they come up all the time. The floppy systems are very reliable
with just a few well-known trouble points. The hard disk model,
Kaypro 10, would be nice but it would be hard to find one working
now. They were hard to keep working even when new.
There was a ton of detailed information on these in several
magazines. I'd recommend a Kaypro 2x if you have a choice, because of
the double-sided, half-height floppy drives. I kept one because it's
easy to copy disks in any Kaypro format. You can also read and write
almost any CP/M format floppy with the "Uniform" software, plus MSDOS
format.
I used to have a Kaypro dealership back in the day, so I could
answer most questions after you do your due diligence on Google.
Paul Pennington
Augusta, Georgia
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8:38 a.m.
New subject: Kaypro 10 problems (was cp/m box for software)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul A. Pennington" <paulpenn(a)knology.net>
I'd say a Kaypro. They can be had at very low
cost -- or free -- and
they come up all the time. The floppy systems are very reliable with just
a
few well-known trouble points. The hard disk model,
Kaypro 10, would be
nice but it would be hard to find one working now. They were hard to keep
working even when new.
Really? I've had one for about four years and the thing just keeps
trotting along. What spare parts should I be accumulating (if any)?
Glen
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11:51 a.m.
New subject: Kaypro 10 problems
Glen wrote:
I've had one for about four years and the thing
just keeps
trotting along. What spare parts should I be accumulating (if any)?
For quite a while, we had to repair virtually every Kaypro 10 before we
could sell it. Most common problem was the hard disk controller board.
Lots of analog components and adjustments. Of course the early 10 MB hard
drives were none too reliable either.
Paul Pennington
Augusta, Georgia
2:21 p.m.
Emanuel,
An Amstrad PCW8256 / 8512 might be a good candidate,
if it had the Serial/Parallel interface included.
The printer that came with it was a dumb Tandy DMP-100
compatible; the printer's smarts were built onto
the CPU card. If you want to use any other
parallel printer, the interface is required.
Ditto for using a modem or other serial device.
(Plans are available for a DIY interface)
The 3" drives can be replaced by 3 1/2" or
5 1/4" drives.
They run CP/M Plus, on a 4MHz Z80A;
WordStar/DBase II run fine on it. The two
discs that shippedth it have a dedicated
Word Processor program (LocoScript), and
3 sides of CP/M stuff. A guy named Harley Ristad
created a set of CP/M discs with a bunch of
utilities and info included. He called them
his Basic Introduction To CP/M Hacking discs.
I had a lot of fun with my (3) PCWs, and learned
an enormous amount about CP/M while
tinkering with them.
If you live anywhere near Tucson, I'd be glad
to give you one. My wife wants them gone,
and I refuse to throw them away while they still work.
Jim
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Subject: cp/m box for software
Hi all,
did a little work on cp/m in the good old days, and thinking about
getting at least one machine up again. As it would be mostly for having
fun with the z80 again (or 8085, z180, z280?), I'm probably not
interested too much in having any of the collector grade machines.
So, the question is, what is the best cp/m machine for playing with the
software ?
cheers & thanks
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