I have HP/847S and found it to be a very effective space heater. Since I wasn't particularily impressed with it's performance, I have opted to run a smaller and more energy friendly HP/832. I use my HPUX box(s) primarily as a database server (running APACHE, PERL, and INFORMIX), application develpment using a Z80 cross assembler, and a backup system for all my other "stuff". I have more trust in 9-track tapes than other backup media. As part of their Y2K support program, HP offered HPUX-10.2 as a free upgrade. The upgrade package included everything you would need to get your box up and running. As far as I know, the upgrade program has been discontinued. You can find release notes and installation instructions at: http://docs.hp.com As I recall, the basic install will give you licenses for two concurrent users. Additional licenses can be activated by installing the license upgrade. This requires a key to activate. The keys were provided by HP with the upgrade based on the number of licenses the user had previously bought. As with the software, those "Free" license upgrades are probably no longer available. Some of the CDs included applications but, you need keys to install them. An alternative is to download and install apps from the HPUX freeware site (http://hpux.cs.utah.edu ). Send me your address off list and I'll get a copy of the OS to you. NOTE: You'll need a bootable CD player to install the software. ALSO --- If any your disks already have an OS installed, there is a simple way to circumvent the ROOT password. SteveRob _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp