As I gaze into my crystal ball... I can look into the future.... It is getting clearer now... clearer... I can see the possiblity of maybe a Vax in my basement sometime soon... :-) :-) There's a guy from Canada (right across the river - I live in a border town) that is a repair rep for (now) Compaq that does the service on a number of Vaxen in northern Ontario, with whom I've opened a dialogue! We started talking about the lunacy of Win2k, the inability of WinNT and defined the "good" in "good old days..."; how Wintel just doesn't cut it compared to the older stuff and ooey-gooeys just give you sticky fingers. ;-) Anyway, from what I understand, he mostly works on Alpha-based machines now, but did Vax work in the past and knows a lot of the installations around the area. While we were recounting the good old days, I casually mentioned "well, ya know, if you know of anyone wanting to get rid of a Vax..." and he said that he may know of a few being replaced!!! :-) He was also telling me how he thought the OLC (Ontario Lottery Corporation (IIRC) - they have a rather large office building [for this area] in Sault, Ontario) and he thought they were throwing out some stuff but didn't know if they already did, and what problems I might have with Customs on the return trip (but I know a lot of Customs agents, so I should be able to swing anything provided it's not illegal... :-) but he'll check it out and let me know next week if anything's available. (he's out of town in Toronto for a week). So... maybe I'll get to ask a lot of Vax questions here soon!!! :-) Take care & happy hunting, Roger "Merch" Merchberger -- Roger "Merch" Merchberger --- sysadmin, Iceberg Computers Recycling is good, right??? Ok, so I'll recycle an old .sig. If at first you don't succeed, nuclear warhead disarmament should *not* be your first career choice.