28 Oct
2001
28 Oct
'01
3:50 a.m.
Please reply OFF list since this is decidedly off topic. I figure there are
at least several gamers on the list who could offer their feelings on the
questions we have, hence my approaching the list.
Anyway, Beverly and I are thinking of getting our 8-yr-old a Playstation 2
for Christmas or his early February birthday. I'm not really into video
games at all so we could use some feedback. I just understand some of the
technology :-)
We've had a Nintendo 64 for the past year and its likeable. I do admit
having fun with a Donkey Kong and a couple different Super Mario games.
They are indeed challenging from a hand-eye coordination, memory and
limited intellectual standpoint, so I begrudgingly admit there is some
value for Matt to play them. However, Bev has found that most of Matt's
friends have Playstation I's and II's and that the game selection is
somewhat better than N64. Matt also expresses a slight preference for the
PS games. So, we're shopping.
Bev understands DVD's can be played on the PS 2 unit. Are these movie DVD's
they're talking about? Audio DVD's? How is the playback quality? Comparable
to an average DVD player?
Any advice on prices? Usual price at Wal-Mart, Ames and other dept. stores
is $299 so we figure that's that unless a sale pops up.
Thanks in advance.
-Chris
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28 Oct
28 Oct
4:40 a.m.
Christian Fandt wrote:
Bev understands DVD's can be played on the PS 2
unit. Are these movie DVD's
they're talking about? Audio DVD's? How is the playback quality? Comparable
to an average DVD player?
One word of warning with DVD's. Most DVD's are wide screen so
you may want to consider that
if you are viewing on a small TV. Ben.
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10:20 a.m.
I watch rental DVD movies with mine all the time, just watched 2 movies
tonight.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ben Franchuk" <bfranchuk(a)jetnet.ab.ca>
To: <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2001 12:40 PM
Subject: Re: OT: Playstation 2 opinion?
Christian Fandt wrote:
> Bev understands DVD's can be played on the PS 2 unit. Are these
movie
DVD's
> they're talking about? Audio DVD's? How
is the playback quality?
Comparable
to an average
DVD player?
One word of warning with DVD's. Most DVD's are wide screen so
you may want to consider that
if you are viewing on a small TV. Ben.
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Now with schematics.
10:52 a.m.
But you get it letterboxed.
Peace... Sridhar
On Sun, 28 Oct 2001, John R. Keys Jr. wrote:
I watch rental DVD movies with mine all the time, just
watched 2 movies
tonight.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ben Franchuk" <bfranchuk(a)jetnet.ab.ca>
To: <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2001 12:40 PM
Subject: Re: OT: Playstation 2 opinion?
Christian Fandt wrote:
> Bev understands DVD's can be played on the PS 2 unit. Are these
movie
DVD's
> they're talking about? Audio DVD's?
How is the playback quality?
Comparable
to an
average DVD player?
One word of warning with DVD's. Most DVD's are wide screen so
you may want to consider that
if you are viewing on a small TV. Ben.
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Now with schematics.
1:26 p.m.
But you get it letterboxed.
Which is a bonus. Pan-and-scan sucks.
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1:53 p.m.
Letterboxed sucks. Anamorphic is where it's at.
Peace... Sridhar
On Sun, 28 Oct 2001, Eric Dittman wrote:
But you get it
letterboxed.
Which is a bonus. Pan-and-scan sucks.
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3:01 p.m.
I have a widescreen format computer display, whats really interesting is
letter-box within a wide format screen, which is what most stuff does on it.
Ugh.
Zach
----- Original Message -----
From: "One Without Reason" <vance(a)ikickass.org>
To: "Eric Dittman" <dittman(a)dittman.net>
Cc: <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2001 10:53 PM
Subject: Re: OT: Playstation 2 opinion?
Letterboxed sucks. Anamorphic is where it's at.
Peace... Sridhar
On Sun, 28 Oct 2001, Eric Dittman wrote:
But you
get it letterboxed.
Which is a bonus. Pan-and-scan sucks.
--
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dittman(a)dittman.net
Check out the DEC Enthusiasts Club at http://www.dittman.net/
5:44 p.m.
Please reply OFF list since this is decidedly off
topic. I figure there are
PS2 is last year, by Xmas all his friends will be talking about Xbox and
GameCube. We have N64, and I resisted forever getting one, and relented
only as the price dropped to about $150 with a game (he just HAD to have
Zelda). Keep in mind this is a razor blade industry, regardless of the high
price of the console, the real money and costs will be in games etc.
My recommendation is to forget the console, and put together a gaming PC.
Better intelligence to the games, and immensely greater selection and
usefullness.
29 Oct
29 Oct
2:48 a.m.
New subject: Classic Gaming OT and OT / Re: OT: Playstation 2 opinion?
On Topic and Off Topic :-)
At 11:44 PM 10/28/01 -0800, it was written:
PS2 is last year, by Xmas all his friends will be
talking about Xbox and
GameCube. We have N64, and I resisted forever getting one, and relented
only as the price dropped to about $150 with a game (he just HAD to have
Zelda). Keep in mind this is a razor blade industry, regardless of the high
price of the console, the real money and costs will be in games etc.
Off topic part:
I was originally quite excited by the Xbox, I still think the _hardware_ is
cool, but the fact that Microsoft will be in charge of the software makes
me cringe. The first dedicated console that crashes not because of the
games :-( If I had to buy one this year I'd go with the PSTwo. Best of the
current lot, if I could get full docs and write my own software, I'd get
the Xbox.
My recommendation is to forget the console, and put
together a gaming PC.
Better intelligence to the games, and immensely greater selection and
usefullness.
On topic part:
This will basically cost 10x as much in real terms and be harder to
maintain. Unless you use it only for games and even then games from
different years won't work on it.
So how many people collect gaming environments? It seems that classic
computers go back to the early days of the C-64 vs Atari console wars.
Remember the advertisements where the young guy is sitting in a job
interview and the interviewer says, "So you can score 200,000 in space
donuts and get to the 15th level in maze wars, but what else can you do?"
and then they offer that if your kid said, "I can hack a C64" they would
hire him. (they don't really say that, they imply programming ability :-)
But I've been a gamer as long as I've been a programmer (which is waaay too
long ;-) and witnessing the folks who got the original 4.2BSD image of the
game Haunt running under NetBSD/VAX was an example of the extremes folks
would like to get to, to recreate gaming experiences.
All the gaming magazines (especially the ones that are left) wax rhapsodic
about the "good old days" when polygon count and particle physics weren't
as important as game play. There are some classic computer games out there
(SpaceWar being perhaps the most famous) that need preserving.
--Chuck
2:16 a.m.
New subject: Classic Gaming OT and OT / Re: OT: Playstation 2 opinion?
So how many people collect gaming environments? It
seems that
classic computers go back to the early days of the C-64 vs Atari
console wars.
The early consoles are cool. It doesn't require ultra hi-res
3D graphics and a new machine to be a fun game. I still occasionally
enjoy a good game of 'Chuck Yeagers AFT' or Pong. In fact, the first
time I saw AFT it was being played on a C-64 and then I went out and
got the CGA/TGA version. I just wish I had the room for some of my
favorite classic arcade games, such as Zaxxon. Until then I'll be
happy with my various home consoles and playing the arcade games on
MAME.
Jeff
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3:19 a.m.
New subject: Classic Gaming OT and OT / Re: OT: Playstation 2 opinion?
I have three versions of the Atari 2600 (six-switch, four-switch, and the
Sears Tele-Games), and a 7800 that I play regularly.
I also collect the full-size arcade machines. It's very interesting for
games like Ms Pac Man, where I own the 2600, 7800, Atari 8-bit, and C-64
versions, and the real thing......
- Matt
So how many people collect gaming environments? It
seems that classic
computers go back to the early days of the C-64 vs Atari console wars.
Remember the advertisements where the young guy is sitting in a job
interview and the interviewer says, "So you can score 200,000 in space
donuts and get to the 15th level in maze wars, but what else can you do?"
and then they offer that if your kid said, "I can hack a C64" they would
hire him. (they don't really say that, they imply programming ability :-)
But I've been a gamer as long as I've been a programmer (which is waaay
too long ;-) and witnessing the folks who got the original 4.2BSD image of
the game Haunt running under NetBSD/VAX was an example of the extremes
folks would like to get to, to recreate gaming experiences.
All the gaming magazines (especially the ones that are left) wax rhapsodic
about the "good old days" when polygon count and particle physics weren't
as important as game play. There are some classic computer games out there
(SpaceWar being perhaps the most famous) that need preserving.
--Chuck
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3:57 a.m.
New subject: Classic Gaming OT and OT / Re: OT: Playstation 2 opinion?
So how many people collect gaming environments? It
seems that classic
computers go back to the early days of the C-64 vs Atari console wars.
Anything classic these days that I get is either DEC, or game console
related. For me collecting game consoles and games for them has the
advantage of being a hobby I can share with my wife.
Come to think of it except for the Apple ][, anything that's 8-bit seems to
have only game software in my collection, and I've not collected 8-bit
systems for several years.
Zane
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11:42 a.m.
New subject: Classic Gaming OT and OT / Re: OT: Playstation 2 opinion?
Chuck McManis skrev:
On Topic and Off Topic :-)
At 11:44 PM 10/28/01 -0800, it was written:
>PS2 is last year, by Xmas all his friends will be talking about Xbox and
>GameCube. We have N64, and I resisted forever getting one, and relented
>only as the price dropped to about $150 with a game (he just HAD to have
>Zelda). Keep in mind this is a razor blade industry, regardless of the high
>price of the console, the real money and costs will be in games etc.
Off topic part:
I was originally quite excited by the Xbox, I still
think the _hardware_ is
cool, but the fact that Microsoft will be in charge of the software makes
me cringe. The first dedicated console that crashes not because of the
games :-( If I had to buy one this year I'd go with the PSTwo. Best of the
current lot, if I could get full docs and write my own software, I'd get
the Xbox.
I think that getting your son a PC for gaming will get him involved with the
"bad boys", the kind who like to slaughter each other across networks whoile
shouting bad words at each other. Console games are nicer.
>My recommendation is to forget the console, and put
together a gaming PC.
>Better intelligence to the games, and immensely greater selection and
>usefullness.
On topic part:
This will basically cost 10x as much in real terms and
be harder to
maintain. Unless you use it only for games and even then games from
different years won't work on it.
Getting a computer (particularly a PC, seeing how expensive they are, both to
obtain and maintain) just for games is not a financially sound idea, I agree.
So how many people collect gaming environments? It
seems that classic
computers go back to the early days of the C-64 vs Atari console wars.
Remember the advertisements where the young guy is sitting in a job
interview and the interviewer says, "So you can score 200,000 in space
donuts and get to the 15th level in maze wars, but what else can you do?"
and then they offer that if your kid said, "I can hack a C64" they would
hire him. (they don't really say that, they imply programming ability :-)
I certainly get games and consoles whenever I can. My main interest in old
computers revolves around games, sound and graphics. A computer with just an
RS-232 connection to the outside world just isn't as interesting, IMO.
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Amiga 4000/040 25MHz/64MB/20GB RetinaBLTZ3/VLab/FastlaneZ3/Ariadne/Toccata
12:33 p.m.
New subject: Classic Gaming OT and OT / Re: OT: Playstation 2 opinion?
Iggy Drougge wrote:
A computer with just an RS-232 connection to the
outside world
just isn't as interesting, IMO.
Ahh, but put a fast modem on that RS232, and with the internet,
it's a whole ( brave ) new world.
2:09 p.m.
New subject: Classic Gaming OT and OT / Re: OT: Playstation 2 opinion?
Ian Koller skrev:
Iggy Drougge wrote:
> A computer with just an RS-232 connection to the
outside world
> just isn't as interesting, IMO.
Ahh, but put a fast modem on that RS232, and with the
internet,
it's a whole ( brave ) new world.
But then how would I reach the box? Through the modem? ;-)
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30 Oct
30 Oct
8:19 a.m.
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Tony Duell wrote:
I think Iggy was talking about a computer without its
own keyboard and
video display, just a serial port which you connect a (dumb) terminal to.
Like many of the minicomputers I have around here.
Hey I could use a dumb terminal
too, I am building a new
computer that uses good old serial I/O. 2400 baud at the moment.
Some how using a PC as a terminal does not have the
micro-computer feel. Ben.
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Now with schematics.
9:31 a.m.
New subject: Classic Gaming OT and OT / Re: OT: Playstation 2 opinion?
Iggy Drougge
wrote:
I think Iggy was talking about a computer without its own keyboard and
video display, just a serial port which you connect a (dumb) terminal to.
Like many of the minicomputers I have around here. A computer with just an RS-232 connection to the
outside world
just isn't as interesting, IMO.
Ahh, but put a fast modem on that RS232, and with the internet,
it's a whole ( brave ) new world.
29 Oct
29 Oct
12:42 p.m.
New subject: Classic Gaming OT and OT / Re: OT: Playstation 2 opinion?
I think that getting your son a PC for gaming will get
him involved with the
"bad boys", the kind who like to slaughter each other across networks whoile
shouting bad words at each other. Console games are nicer.
Console games are starting to go online as well though. The Dreamcaste
started it, the PS2 will soon have a adapter, and I think the Xbox might
come with it (or at least you'll be able to add it). I'm not sure about the
Game Cube.
Zane
30 Oct
30 Oct
6:06 a.m.
New subject: Classic Gaming OT and OT / Re: OT: Playstation 2 opinion?
On 30-Oct-2001 Iggy Drougge wrote:
I certainly get games and consoles whenever I can. My
main interest in
old computers revolves around games, sound and graphics. A computer with
just an RS-232 connection to the outside world just isn't as
interesting, IMO.
Hunt the Wumpus? Rogue? Zork?
-Philip
8:21 a.m.
New subject: Classic Gaming OT and OT / Re: OT: Playstation 2 opinion?
gwynp skrev:
On 30-Oct-2001 Iggy Drougge wrote:
> I certainly get games and consoles whenever I can. My main interest in
> old computers revolves around games, sound and graphics. A computer with
> just an RS-232 connection to the outside world just isn't as
> interesting, IMO.
Hunt the Wumpus? Rogue? Zork?
OLMasken! Fire! Bilspel!
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10:24 a.m.
New subject: Classic Gaming OT and OT / Re: OT: Playstation 2 opinion?
On Tue, Oct 30, 2001 at 11:21:09PM +0100, Iggy Drougge wrote:
gwynp skrev:
I need some more explanation here...
On 30-Oct-2001 Iggy Drougge wrote:
> I certainly get games and consoles whenever I can. My main interest in
> old computers revolves around games, sound and graphics. A computer with
> just an RS-232 connection to the outside world just isn't as
> interesting, IMO.
Hunt the Wumpus? Rogue? Zork?
OLMasken! Fire! Bilspel!
2:38 p.m.
New subject: Classic Gaming OT and OT / Re: OT: Playstation 2 opinion?
Derek Peschel skrev:
On Tue, Oct 30, 2001 at 11:21:09PM +0100, Iggy Drougge
wrote:
> gwynp skrev:
>
> >On 30-Oct-2001 Iggy Drougge wrote:
> >> I certainly get games and consoles whenever I can. My main interest in
> >> old computers revolves around games, sound and graphics. A computer with
> >> just an RS-232 connection to the outside world just isn't as
> >> interesting, IMO.
>
> >Hunt the Wumpus? Rogue? Zork?
>
> OLMasken! Fire! Bilspel!
I need some more explanation here...
BBS games from the nineties. OLMasken is a "worm" game, Fire is like the Game
and Watch game where you have to save people from a burning house. Bilspel is
a marvelous little racing game.
All run in a terminal emulator. =)
I suppose some people here have run Hack'n'Slash or Global War, too.
But such novelties aside, I'd rather have bitmapped (or vector =) graphics and
some channels of sound.
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avskyr dem s? ?r det ?nd? s? n?tt magiskt bakom dem...
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3 Nov
3 Nov
10:50 a.m.
New subject: Classic Gaming OT and OT / Re: OT: Playstation 2 opinion?
On Wed, Oct 31, 2001 at 05:38:06AM +0100, Iggy Drougge wrote:
I remember another Game and Watch game where you have to catch pancakes
as they flip through the air. Obviously Nintendo wasn't above reusing a
good idea.
Derek Peschel skrev:
>On Tue, Oct 30, 2001 at 11:21:09PM +0100, Iggy Drougge wrote:
> OLMasken!
Fire! Bilspel!
I need some more explanation here...
BBS games from the nineties. OLMasken is a "worm" game, Fire is like the Game
and Watch game where you have to save people from a burning house. Bilspel is
a marvelous little racing game. But such novelties aside, I'd rather have
bitmapped (or vector =) graphics and
some channels of sound.
I know what you mean. Even a memory-mapped text display is much more
expressive than a slow serial link.
The one good thing about BBS games (or games on timesharing computers) is
that you get to play against a large number of other people.
-- Derek
5 Nov
5 Nov
9:08 a.m.
New subject: Classic Gaming Collections
I for one have enlarged my gaming collection since it's getting harder
to collect S100 and other older computer items. Every where I go now
people tell me that they can get more on eBay than my offer. Some have
called me back after trying to sell their items with no luck on eBay.
Back to the gaming items I now have almost every Sega console, one each
GameBoy series, both Atari 2600's, Atari 5200, and 7800, The Pong,
Intellvision's 3 different models, Atari 400 & 800, Vic20, various C64
models, various other Atari models in the XL series, a Bally, TI99/4's
various models, many handheld models like the NOMAD, GameGear, and
others, Coleco Adam, VideoBrain, and many other systems plus tons of
game software and cartridges. Someday I will have a complete list on
the web and the units on display.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chuck McManis" <cmcmanis(a)mcmanis.com>
To: <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Monday, October 29, 2001 10:48 AM
Subject: Classic Gaming OT and OT / Re: OT: Playstation 2 opinion?
_hardware_ is
do?"
On Topic and Off Topic :-)
At 11:44 PM 10/28/01 -0800, it was written:
>PS2 is last year, by Xmas all his friends will be talking about Xbox
and
>GameCube. We have N64, and I resisted forever
getting one, and
relented
>only as the price dropped to about $150 with a
game (he just HAD to
have
>Zelda). Keep in mind this is a razor blade
industry, regardless of
the high
price of the
console, the real money and costs will be in games etc.
Off topic part:
I was originally quite excited by the Xbox, I still think the cool, but the fact that Microsoft will be in charge of
the software
makes
me cringe. The first dedicated console that crashes
not because of the
games :-( If I had to buy one this year I'd go with the PSTwo. Best of
the
current lot, if I could get full docs and write my own
software, I'd
get
the Xbox.
>My recommendation is to forget the console, and put together a gaming
PC.
Better
intelligence to the games, and immensely greater selection and
usefullness.
On topic part:
This will basically cost 10x as much in real terms and be harder to
maintain. Unless you use it only for games and even then games from
different years won't work on it.
So how many people collect gaming environments? It seems that classic
computers go back to the early days of the C-64 vs Atari console wars.
Remember the advertisements where the young guy is sitting in a job
interview and the interviewer says, "So you can score 200,000 in space
donuts and get to the 15th level in maze wars, but what else can you and then they offer that if your kid said, "I can
hack a C64" they
would
hire him. (they don't really say that, they imply
programming ability
:-)
But I've been a gamer as long as I've been a programmer (which is
waaay
too
long ;-) and witnessing the folks who got the original
4.2BSD image of
the
game Haunt running under NetBSD/VAX was an example of
the extremes
folks
would like to get to, to recreate gaming experiences.
All the gaming magazines (especially the ones that are left) wax
rhapsodic
about the "good old days" when polygon count
and particle physics
weren't
as important as game play. There are some classic
computer games out
there
(SpaceWar being perhaps the most famous) that need
preserving.
--Chuck
10:53 p.m.
New subject: Classic Gaming Collections
What?! No Vectrex?! ;-)
I for one have enlarged my gaming collection since it's getting harder
to collect S100 and other older computer items. Every where I go now
people tell me that they can get more on eBay than my offer. Some have
called me back after trying to sell their items with no luck on eBay.
Back to the gaming items I now have almost every Sega console, one each
GameBoy series, both Atari 2600's, Atari 5200, and 7800, The Pong,
What do you mean by "both Atari 2600's"? There were more then two...
There was the 4-switch, 6-switch, junior, sears telegames... maybe more..
Intellvision's 3 different models, Atari 400 &
800, Vic20, various C64
models, various other Atari models in the XL series, a Bally, TI99/4's
various models, many handheld models like the NOMAD, GameGear, and
others, Coleco Adam, VideoBrain, and many other systems plus tons of
game software and cartridges. Someday I will have a complete list on
the web and the units on display.
Nice list ..! :D
Bryan
6 Nov
6 Nov
6:21 a.m.
New subject: Classic Gaming Collections
What do you mean by "both Atari 2600's"?
There were more then two...
There was the 4-switch, 6-switch, junior, sears telegames... maybe more..
I believe the FAQ lists a total of nine 2600 varients of all
kinds, including the Japan-only 2800.
Jeff
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7 a.m.
New subject: Semi-OT: Power Player? (was: Classic Gaming Collections)
Well, this is sort of off-topic, but the games in question are
"classics"...
There's this video game system I've seen called "Power Player", which
claims to have 128 built-in "classic" games, described as games "similar
to" old standbys like Ms. Pac-Man, Galaga, Stargate, etc., etc. I've seen
it playing Galaga, and the game looks pretty authentic. There are a
couple of street vendors in this area who are selling these systems for
about $50.00.
Anyone know anything about this system? All I really know (other than
what I've mentioned already) is that eBay won't allow it to be sold on
their site - I've seen several on eBay (and you can still find some in the
completed auctions listings), but the very day I bid on one, eBay decided
that this item was an "infringing" item, and cancelled all auctions
selling this system. For a while, I was wondering if it was some kind of
embedded 486 DOS system running MAME with a bunch of game ROM images
installed. Anyone know anything more?
Thanks,
--Pat.
10:51 a.m.
New subject: Classic Gaming Collections
I have the Sears and others also but when I get a complete list I will
give you a better count.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeff Hellige" <jhellige(a)earthlink.net>
To: <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2001 2:21 PM
Subject: Re: Classic Gaming Collections
>What do you mean by "both Atari
2600's"? There were more then two...
>
>There was the 4-switch, 6-switch, junior, sears telegames... maybe
more..
I believe the FAQ lists a total of nine 2600 varients of all
kinds, including the Japan-only 2800.
Jeff
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10:43 a.m.
New subject: Classic Gaming Collections
Have three cartridges for one but no console yet :-(
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bryan Pope" <bpope(a)wordstock.com>
To: <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2001 6:53 AM
Subject: Re: Classic Gaming Collections
more..
What?! No Vectrex?! ;-)
>
> I for one have enlarged my gaming collection since it's getting
harder
> to collect S100 and other older computer items.
Every where I go
now
> people tell me that they can get more on eBay
than my offer. Some
have
> called me back after trying to sell their items
with no luck on
eBay.
> Back to the gaming items I now have almost every
Sega console, one
each
GameBoy
series, both Atari 2600's, Atari 5200, and 7800, The Pong,
What do you mean by "both Atari 2600's"? There were more then two...
There was the 4-switch, 6-switch, junior, sears telegames... maybe
> Intellvision's 3 different models, Atari 400 & 800, Vic20, various
C64
> models, various other Atari models in the XL
series, a Bally,
TI99/4's
> various models, many handheld models like the
NOMAD, GameGear, and
> others, Coleco Adam, VideoBrain, and many other systems plus tons of
> game software and cartridges. Someday I will have a complete list
on
the web and
the units on display.
Nice list ..! :D
Bryan
7 a.m.
New subject: Classic Gaming Collections
On Mon, 5 Nov 2001, John R. Keys Jr. wrote:
each GameBoy series, both Atari 2600's, Atari
5200, and 7800, The
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Hate to burst yer bubble, but there were a few variations of the Atari
2600: the 6-switch version, the 4-switch version, the black 4-switch
version, the Sears Tele-Games OEM, and the 2600jr. Maybe a couple I'm
forgetting.
How about the Fairchild Channel F, the handheld Microvision, the
Intellivision // and Intellivision ///, the NES Famicom...
Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival
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10:57 a.m.
New subject: Classic Gaming Collections
Glad I got everyone's attention but no one else seems to be listing what
gaming items they have which was the original question asked. Mine's was
a start not a complete listing as half of my collection is down in Texas
and it very hard get a count right now. I was down there last week but
ended up buying more items than I counted at the warehouses.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sellam Ismail" <foo(a)siconic.com>
To: <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2001 3:00 PM
Subject: Re: Classic Gaming Collections
On Mon, 5 Nov 2001, John R. Keys Jr. wrote:
Festival
each GameBoy series, both Atari 2600's, Atari
5200, and 7800, The
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Hate to burst yer bubble, but there were a few variations of the Atari
2600: the 6-switch version, the 4-switch version, the black 4-switch
version, the Sears Tele-Games OEM, and the 2600jr. Maybe a couple I'm
forgetting.
How about the Fairchild Channel F, the handheld Microvision, the
Intellivision // and Intellivision ///, the NES Famicom...
Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer
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11:15 a.m.
New subject: Classic Gaming Collections
Glad I got everyone's attention but no one else
seems to be listing what
gaming items they have which was the original question asked.
Well if it's a list you want, here's what I have:
- Fairchild Channel F and Channel F System II
- GCE Vectrex
- Atari 2600
- Emerson Arcadia 2001
- Mattel Intellivision and Intellivision II
- Magnavox Odyssey^2
- Atari Super Pong
- Atari Jaguar
- Atari Lynx II
- Radio Shack TV Scoreboard
- Magnavox Odyssey 400
- Magnavox Odyssey 200
- Coleco Telstar
- Unisonic Tournament 2000
- Mattel Starhawk
- Entex PacMan
Not sure if you want Pong-type consoles or not, but there are
a few of them mixed in there, plus a couple of handhelds.
Jeff
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7 Nov
5:24 a.m.
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--- Jeff Hellige <jhellige(a)earthlink.net> wrote:
I _used_ to have more of this stuff when I was a kid, but four boys in
a house are not easy on consumer electronics... (we played a Tank game
to death - first breaking the joysticks (which i fixed as a kid), then
wearing out the fire buttons (which I also replaced), and finally
killing the electronics. Wish I could find another one of those.
I currently have only a few things of this nature:
- Magnavox Odessey 1 (and a box of parts - my original one died when I
was a teenager and was summarily stripped)
- Atari Lynx (not sure I or II, but I have a couple and at least two
copies of Xenophobe for linked play)
- RCA Studio II (and 4 carts I just got at the Dayton ComputerFest)
No Atari 2600 or Coleco or any of the other cool stuff from the old
days. 8-bit Ninetendo and Sega Genesis and the like are too new to
be interesting.
The cool part about what I do have is that each one is special in its
own way - the Magnavox, as most of you probably know, is analog. The
Lynx is an early color hand-held, created by former Amiga guys, and is
6502-based (one of my favorite processors). The Studio-II has an 1802
inside, one of my other favorite processors. I've heard of a home-computer
kit for the Studio II and someone (perhaps on this list) promised to
send me copies of the info, but it's never materialized.
-ethan
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Glad I got
everyone's attention but no one else seems to be listing what
gaming items they have which was the original question asked.
Well if it's a list you want, here's what I have:
- Magnavox Odyssey^2
- Atari Lynx II
- Radio Shack TV Scoreboard 
8 Nov
8 Nov
4:39 p.m.
New subject: Classic Gaming Collections
From: Ethan Dicks <erd_6502(a)yahoo.com>
... (we played a Tank game
to death - first breaking the joysticks (which i fixed as a kid), then
wearing out the fire buttons (which I also replaced), and finally
killing the electronics. Wish I could find another one of those.
Yeah, that two player combat game was fun as hell and mine had a similar
maintinence record. Been looking for awhile now too and conclude none
survive.
Another great game not mentioned yet were the Atari Stunt Cycle and combo
consoles. btw: I jumped 37 busses a few weeks ago.
Those old games got it ergonomiclly right.
:)
- Mike: dogas(a)bellsouth.net
6 Nov
6 Nov
11:32 a.m.
New subject: Classic Gaming Collections
I collect consoles in general, I own the NES, both styles (toploading and
front-loading) with about 100 games including Japanese and pirate ones. I
also own an atari clone with 4 games, Intellivision 2 with 4 games, Gameboy,
Game Gear, etc. I also own some new stuff not worth mentioning, like ps2 and
such. I"m always looking for new 8-bit NES stuff, especially it's Japanese
counterpart, the Famicom, so if anyone has any they wanna sell or trade,
gimme a shout.
-Lanny
----- Original Message -----
From: John R. Keys Jr. <jrkeys(a)concentric.net>
To: <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2001 9:27 PM
Subject: Re: Classic Gaming Collections
Glad I got everyone's attention but no one else
seems to be listing what
gaming items they have which was the original question asked. Mine's was
a start not a complete listing as half of my collection is down in Texas
and it very hard get a count right now. I was down there last week but
ended up buying more items than I counted at the warehouses.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sellam Ismail" <foo(a)siconic.com>
To: <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2001 3:00 PM
Subject: Re: Classic Gaming Collections
On Mon, 5 Nov 2001, John R. Keys Jr. wrote:
Festival
each GameBoy series, both Atari 2600's, Atari
5200, and 7800, The
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Hate to burst yer bubble, but there were a few variations of the Atari
2600: the 6-switch version, the 4-switch version, the black 4-switch
version, the Sears Tele-Games OEM, and the 2600jr. Maybe a couple I'm
forgetting.
How about the Fairchild Channel F, the handheld Microvision, the
Intellivision // and Intellivision ///, the NES Famicom...
Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer
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http://www.vintage.org
8 Nov
8 Nov
6:01 a.m.
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Lanny Cox skrev:
Game Gear, etc.
My little brother tells me that the Game Gear is supposed to be rereleased at
a low price in America. I really hope they'll do something about the old
battery time, then.
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8:13 a.m.
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On 8 Nov 2001, Iggy Drougge wrote:
Lanny Cox skrev:
I have a Nomad and a Game Gear (as well as a Triad and a ColecoVision).
The Nomad is *sooo* much nicer. Plays Genesis cartridges, so there are
games out the wazoo for it.
Peace... Sridhar
Game Gear, etc.
My little brother tells me that the Game Gear is supposed to be rereleased at
a low price in America. I really hope they'll do something about the old
battery time, then.
10:35 a.m.
New subject: Classic Gaming Collections
I just picked up a NOMAD while in Houston last week and you right about
how nice they are. All I got was the console , one cartridge, and the
power adapter. No manuals or the box for it.
----- Original Message -----
From: "One Without Reason" <vance(a)ikickass.org>
To: "Iggy Drougge" <optimus(a)canit.se>
Cc: "Lanny Cox" <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 4:13 PM
Subject: Re: Classic Gaming Collections
ColecoVision).
On 8 Nov 2001, Iggy Drougge wrote:
> Lanny Cox skrev:
>
> >Game Gear, etc.
>
> My little brother tells me that the Game Gear is supposed to be
rereleased at
> a low price in America. I really hope they'll
do something about the
old
battery time,
then.
I have a Nomad and a Game Gear (as well as a Triad and a The Nomad is *sooo* much nicer. Plays Genesis
cartridges, so there
are
games out the wazoo for it.
Peace... Sridhar
5:46 a.m.
New subject: Classic Gaming Collections
John R. Keys Jr. skrev:
Glad I got everyone's attention but no one else
seems to be listing what
gaming items they have which was the original question asked. Mine's was
a start not a complete listing as half of my collection is down in Texas
and it very hard get a count right now. I was down there last week but
ended up buying more items than I counted at the warehouses.
NES, Master Systems 1 and 2, 2600, 2600 Jr, 2600 Jr clone, various PC5 pong
consoles, Mega Drive, Mega Drive clone, Philips G7000, INTV 3. I think that's
it. Oh, and I managed to destroy a SNES a few weeks ago. Stupid Nintendo, why
couldn't they use normal screws?
On the wish list: PC Engine, Amstrad GX4000 (has anyone got one of those?),
Neo Geo
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29 Oct
3:48 a.m.
My recommendation is to forget the console, and put
together a gaming PC.
Better intelligence to the games, and immensely greater selection and
usefullness.
With the PS2 he'll be able to play new games for how many years without
upgrading the hardware? OTOH, how often do you need to upgrade a gaming PC
to play the latest stuff? I decided consoles were the way to go a few
years ago.
Zane
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