On 3/24/20 1:25 PM, Dennis Boone via cctalk wrote:
Is there anywhere we can find a list of what is
avaiable on each of
those images? I tried a few and at least one has all the compilers
but no emacs. Another has emacs but apparently no compilers. :-)
I'm impressed so far but would really like to
find systems that I can
do some real programming on. Is it possible for someone to build a
Rev 24 image with everything on it?
There's not a list of what's on each image. I'll think about creating
Recall that the layered products tended to be related to the version of
the base OS. Sometimes you could use an older version on a newer
PRIMOS, sometimes not. Since the ones we have came with specific
distribution tape sets, or from backups of specific machines, and
basically nobody just had everything Prime sold, the systems we can
build are "uneven". The largest collections of layered products in
captivity are for 19, 22 and 23. I think the only copy of INFORMATION
is on 21. Etc.
I'll just have to start all of them and see which have the fullest
set of compilers. :-) Maybe have to find a version of emacs that
is publicly available that will build on Primos. :-)
I wonder if anyone has a copy of the sources for EDV? that was our
common editor when I did this for a living. It was a very good full
screen editor and was written in Fortran (with calls to some low
level Primos stuff for the single character input and such).
There are incomplete source sets for 19 and 22. We're in the process of
revamping the 19.2 sample system to have the source for the kernel it's
running baked in.
Ah... Sources. That was my ballywick back in those days. Maintaining
the OS and layered products for a cluster of 850's at West Point. Those
were the days.
My last real work with Primos was during the move
from Rev 19 to Rev
20. I am amazed at how much I have forgotten and really regret
having gotten rid of all my documentation (at least I think I did, I
suppose it is possible there is still a box in the attic full of
Prime manuals including my course books from the internals class!)
I've had to refresh a few things, but I'm amazed at how many details are
still in my head. There's a lot of new stuff post-20, too.
I barely touched 20 saw nothing beyond that.
I know I ended up with some of your manuals. Lots of scanned manuals at
sysovl.info in PDF form, if you can live with that. A couple versions
of the internals class manual are there.
Well, I guess I don't need to go looking in the attic then. :-)
I think I was the only one who took the class that actually kept the
manual, which is how I ended out with more than one copy. :-)
I'm still moving stuff into that site, so if there's something specific
you need, let me know and I'll see if I can help.
I would say that the biggest help other than compilers would be EMACS. I
may actually still have the Prime EMACS Manual. I think I kept that
because I use EMACS on other systems, too and it was a good manual.
One other one that I should know but forgot is
how to add a user.
Would be nice to set it up properly before I start loading programs
You do that with EDIT_PROFILE. Make sure the priority ACL is set (I
think that's being done at boot), and run it from the console.
Thank you. That stuck in my head but reading the pocket guides I still
have didn't refresh it for me.