On Wed, 23 May 2007 12:04:18 -0500 (CDT), you wrote: Actually I do have an ASR33. Now consider how long 2 Mb would take to punch or read at 10 characters per second :P Anyone? I'm having a problem since I think VTserver was originally intended to work with hardware flow control (handshaking) and 11's console port is a simple three-line with no flow control. This is the version I'm using, that runs on Windows machines: http://home.alltel.net/engdahl/vtserver.zip Max SLU speed on the -11 is 19200 so that's what I'm running. I tied pins 1,4,6 together on the DE-9 connector to COM1: (to "fake" a handshake). After starting ODT on the 11/23+, and "VTserver 19200" in the laptop's cmd window, I see more or less continuous strings of "@" until I hit ^B and then ^A to download the bootstrap. The "copy" file then downloads successfully, but when prompted for the input device (RL), when I hit the R key, it echoes continuously at high speed (RRRRRRRRRRRRRR....) until I press the L, then LLLLLLLLLLLL... etc. and when hitting return, of course it's a "bad device" message. Is there anything I can do about this? Is it possible to use XON/XOFF flow control (I don't think the "copy" program does, though?) What did I do wrong? thanks Charles