Common problem, I think. It's not easy. You'll need to remove the screws in the top of the mainboard, I think. The mainboard should then "lift out" -- probably front first, but it's been a while. Make sure that you don't bend the board. The connectors that stick out under the lip in the back of the system tend to catch on things. It will be connected to at least a power connector and a cable for the disks. Disconnect those. Remember to note their orientation. The Ethernet board, and any ram expanders will be snapped onto the main board with little plastic parts. They'll lift right out with it. All of this is from distant (a year or so) memory, so make sure I'm telling you the right thing before you try it ;) Now, the floppy and hard disk will be attached to the same set of metal plates, and those plates, IIRC, are attached to the rails that hold the drives in place. I think you need to detach the metal drive-plates from the rails, and then take the hard disk off once you have the pair of disks dislodged from the inside of the machine. IIRC, the power supply is "short" -- maybe half the height of the system cabinet -- so you should be able to get access to any screws you need to take out to loosen the above-mentioned metal plates. Kind of like that... :) Again, take the mainboard out, and you'll have to remove both drives at once. :) Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '