8 Sep
2003
8 Sep
'03
7:02 a.m.
Do you mean "DB9" connectors?
I was under the impression that the small D shell size was an "E" not a
"B". That "B" was the larger size commonly found on 25 pin connectors
(lets not split hairs here, everyone knows what I mean by 25 pin
connector... ie: a common PC parallel connector, or the larger serial
connector, or a Mac SCSI connector).
I used to call it a DB9, but I was corrected many moons ago by others on
this list with FAR more knowledge on the topic than I have, so I took
them at their word, and have made an effort to always refer to it as a
DE9 now.
I suppose the HD15 "VGA" connector would then be a DE15. And a DB9 would
be a "25 pin" shell with only 9 actual pins in it (9 pin spaces, as from
what I understand the count is based on number of spaces, not actual
number of pins present).
Hopefully we will avoid the whole "whats a
"centronics/amphenol/telco/SCSI" connector called" discussion. That one
really makes my head spin :-)
But I am curious what the Sun monitor connector is called (that one that
is a DB shell with 3 large barrel pins as well as some smaller pins).
-chris
<http://www.mythtech.net>
7:48 a.m.
New subject: SVGA/13w3 [was: SVGA with DE9]
On Mon, 8 Sep 2003, John Allain wrote:
BTW I'm looking for a 13w3 -> HD15 cable if
someone
has one to spare.
I've got bunches of female 13w3 to male DE15(HD15) cables from Sun
equipment if you want one. $10 including shipping should get it anywhere
in the US.
Also, there's a difference in wiring betwen Sun, SGI, and IBM 13w3
connectors, specifically where they sync pins are. If you're using a
system that has sync-on-green, it shouldn't be a problems. However, if
you're trying to hook a monitor with a 13w3 to a PC, it gets more
interesting. At one point I ended up taking a 13w3 male to male cable and
splicing a HD15 on one end, so that I could hook my IBM monitor (which I'm
using right now, actually) up to my desktop PC at work.
Pat
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3:01 p.m.
Hello John,
Get a 13W3 to HD15 adapter, then use a standard HD-15 to HD-15 cable.
The 13W3 that works with Sun equipment doesn't work with SGI Indy's.
I hear there is a different adapter for those.
Best Regards
At 12:16 PM 9/8/03 -0400, you wrote:
(that one that
is a DB shell with 3 large barrel
pins as well as some smaller pins).
two coax barrels, 10 pins, one barrel = 13w3
three barrels = 3w3
BTW I'm looking for a 13w3 -> HD15 cable if someone
has one to spare.
John A. 
3:46 p.m.
On Mon, 2003-09-08 at 19:52, Mail List wrote:
Hello John,
Get a 13W3 to HD15 adapter, then use a standard HD-15 to HD-15 cable.
The 13W3 that works with Sun equipment doesn't work with SGI Indy's.
I hear there is a different adapter for those.
FWIW, My personal experience say Sun != SGI 13W3 isn't always true.
The 21" dual input Sun monitor I've got on my desk has a standard 15 pin
VGA input, and a 13W3. That 13W3 input (so far) has plugged
successfully into every bit of Sun & SGI HW I've tried. (OT List:
SS10, SS5, Ultra1, Indy, and Octane)
Of course, YMMV, mebbe its a smart monitor :-)
David
Best Regards
7:12 p.m.
Hello David,
There you go, Never say never.
The monitor's I usually used for checking were the 5 BNC input Sony MultiSyncs.
These monitors have worked with every type of system I had ever plugged up to
them except the Indy ( with the adapter I had ).
The types of systems it did work with were ...
PC's
DEC Alphas with 3W3
HP something or others with 3 BNC output
Suns of all types that I ever had the occasion to try with the 13W3 to HD15
adapter
Sounds like with your monitor having the 13W3 input, you might not have
needed to be using an adapter, but just used a 13W3 to 13W3 cable?
Best Regards
At 08:38 PM 9/8/03 -0400, you wrote:
On Mon, 2003-09-08 at 19:52, Mail List wrote:
Hello John,
Get a 13W3 to HD15 adapter, then use a standard HD-15 to HD-15 cable.
The 13W3 that works with Sun equipment doesn't work with SGI Indy's.
I hear there is a different adapter for those.
FWIW, My personal experience say Sun != SGI 13W3 isn't always true.
The 21" dual input Sun monitor I've got on my desk has a standard 15 pin
VGA input, and a 13W3. That 13W3 input (so far) has plugged
successfully into every bit of Sun & SGI HW I've tried. (OT List:
SS10, SS5, Ultra1, Indy, and Octane)
Of course, YMMV, mebbe its a smart monitor :-)
David
>
> Best Regards
9 Sep
9 Sep
3:12 p.m.
On Tue, 2003-09-09 at 00:04, Mail List wrote:
Hello David,
Howdy
snip<
Sounds like with your monitor having the 13W3 input,
you might not have
needed to be using an adapter, but just used a 13W3 to 13W3 cable?
Well, the 13W3 cable is attached in back of the monitor permn, but
yeah... no adapters needed for anything I've plugged it into so far.
David
8 Sep
8 Sep
7:42 a.m.
At 11:52 AM 9/8/03 -0400, you wrote:
Agreed!
Note, that even D what-ever is not entirely correct. Different
manufacturers call it different things.
Do you mean
"DB9" connectors?
I was under the impression that the small D shell size was an "E" not a
"B". That "B" was the larger size commonly found on 25 pin connectors
(lets not split hairs here, everyone knows what I mean by 25 pin
connector... ie: But I am curious what the Sun monitor connector is
called (that one that
is a DB shell with 3 large barrel pins as well as some smaller pins).
I've always heard it called a 13W3.I don't know if that it's officail
designation or not. It's widely used on SUN and SGI monitors.
Joe
8 a.m.
Rumor has it that chris may have mentioned these words:
But I am curious what the Sun monitor connector is
called (that one that
is a DB shell with 3 large barrel pins as well as some smaller pins).
Dunno if it's totall "kosher" with the D[ABCDEF]# scheme, but Sun calls it
(IIRC, it's just what I see in the catalogs... ;-) a 13W3 connector. DEC
had a video connector that was *just* the "3 large barrel pins" as you
called them, and it's called a 3W3, again IIRC. Please, gurus out there,
correct me if I'm wrong... ;-)
HTH,
Roger "Merch" Merchberger
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zmerch(a)30below.com
What do you do when Life gives you lemons,
and you don't *like* lemonade?????????????
10:55 a.m.
On Mon, 8 Sep 2003, Roger Merchberger wrote:
Rumor has it that chris may have mentioned these
words:
I believe the 13W3 is the DB13W3, and the 3W3 is the DA3W3. I've seen
them that way in catalogs.
Peace... Sridhar
But I am curious what the Sun monitor connector is
called (that one
that is a DB shell with 3 large barrel pins as well as some smaller
pins).
Dunno if it's totall "kosher" with the D[ABCDEF]# scheme, but Sun calls
it (IIRC, it's just what I see in the catalogs... ;-) a 13W3 connector.
DEC had a video connector that was *just* the "3 large barrel pins" as
you called them, and it's called a 3W3, again IIRC. Please, gurus out
there, correct me if I'm wrong... ;-)
11:06 a.m.
On Mon, 8 Sep 2003 vance(a)neurotica.com wrote:
And, I might add, this catalog was put out in 1985, and I've never seen it
better put since.
Peace... Sridhar
DEC had a
video connector that was *just* the "3 large barrel pins" as
you called them, and it's called a 3W3, again IIRC. Please, gurus out
there, correct me if I'm wrong... ;-)
I believe the 13W3 is the DB13W3, and the 3W3 is the DA3W3. I've seen
them that way in catalogs.
2:51 p.m.
But I am curious what the Sun monitor connector is
called (that one that
is a DB shell with 3 large barrel pins as well as some smaller pins).
13W3
At 11:52 AM 9/8/03 -0400, you wrote:
Do you mean
"DB9" connectors?
I was under the impression that the small D shell size was an "E" not a
"B". That "B" was the larger size commonly found on 25 pin connectors
(lets not split hairs here, everyone knows what I mean by 25 pin
connector... ie: a common PC parallel connector, or the larger serial
connector, or a Mac SCSI connector).
I used to call it a DB9, but I was corrected many moons ago by others on
this list with FAR more knowledge on the topic than I have, so I took
them at their word, and have made an effort to always refer to it as a
DE9 now.
I suppose the HD15 "VGA" connector would then be a DE15. And a DB9 would
be a "25 pin" shell with only 9 actual pins in it (9 pin spaces, as from
what I understand the count is based on number of spaces, not actual
number of pins present).
Hopefully we will avoid the whole "whats a
"centronics/amphenol/telco/SCSI" connector called" discussion. That one
really makes my head spin :-)
But I am curious what the Sun monitor connector is called (that one that
is a DB shell with 3 large barrel pins as well as some smaller pins).
-chris
<http://www.mythtech.net>
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