3 Mar
1998
3 Mar
'98
10:07 p.m.
Greets:
Yep, this last weekend I picked up another truckload of goodies. Mainly
Apple stuff but there is some TI, Mac, IBM, etc., stuff in there. The
list follows here. Please let me know if you want any of this! Amazing
how, until two weeks ago, I had very little Apple stuff, and now I have
more than I can handle!!
Also, for all of you who responded the last time I made a similar post,
thanks for doing so! Your help on identifying many of the items was
great. And for all of you who have requested stuff, I apologize in
getting back to you in such a deliquent manner.... the e-mails are on
file, I've just been so busy lately! I will get back to you and get this
stuff out to you, that's a promise!!
Please take a look at the URL in my signature at the very bottom...
there's the complete inventory of what I have on-line, and also pages
for what I am looking for. Other pages I have there are some interesting
links, an Adventure International page (the classic game company-- Scott
Adams), my autographed memorabilia page, classic computer photo gallery,
downloads, and this 'what's new' list, and some other stuff you may like
to browse.
Anyway, here is the recent list of what I just got. Let me know if you
can take some off of my hands or have some info. on it, ok?
Thanks for your time,
CORD
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LIST-----------------------------------------------------
Computers/CPU's
-----------------------
* Texas Instruments TI-99/4a computer - with the silver case. Are these
more rare than the tan cases? Model # PHC004a Ser # 8184424.
*Apple //e computer. This has 2 drives attached internally as well. This
computer also has keys with white lettering on them. I have others that
are black lettered (???). Model # A252064. The twod rives are Disk ][.
Drive Model # are A2M0003. Seriel # on the drives are: 416072 & 788419.
Computer ser. # is 020130. Oh, computer also has a printer cable coming
out the back.
* Apple //e computer. This one has a volumn adjuster and a large
ear-phone jack added into the case. Also this model has a the light to
the left of the open-Apple button. Black lettering on the keyboard. Has
been stripped of all the cards out the back, although looking in, it has
some stuff in there yet. Model # A2S2064
* Apple //e computer. Has been stripped of just about everything
internally. Need to open it up to see what exactly is there still!
Monitors
------------
* Apple monitor: Model #A2M2010 - green phosphor with internal tilting
screen.
* Macintosh 12" Monochrome Display. Family #: M1050. Has a note that
says, "blury screen." Haven't tested.
* Apple Monitor ///. Model #: A3M0039 - made in June 1983.
*
Disk Drives/Other Storage
---------------------------------
* Apple 3.5" disk drive... is this for Mac only or //e, etc also? Model
#m0130.
* 2 Apple Disk // drives... More info found above in the CPU section --
attached to a machine.
* IBM 4869 5.25" disk drive. I have 3 of these. They have big, heavy
duty cables attached which go to the machine. Does anyone have more
information on these?
Printers
----------
*Printer Pro Parallel Printer Interface for the Apple //+, //e, and //GS
computers. With original box and instructions, cable and all original
packaging.
* Two Apple printers that weigh a ton!! Tan cases, 80 column printers
(?) Model #: A9M0303.
* Apple // Imagewriter // printer.
* Apple wide-carriage printer (160 column?) Model # A9M0305 - no power
cable.
Books/Manuals
---------------------
* Ernie's Quiz by Apple & Children's Television Workshop. Manual
* Level II BASIC Reference manual for the TRS-80 - 2nd Edition.
* Apple HyperCard User's Guide.
* Apple // 80-Column Text Card Manual.
* Apple // AppleMouse User's Manual
* Ashton-Tate Developer Registry, 2nd Edition. Ashton-Tate made Dbase
/// Plus. 540 pages. 1988
* Tank Tactics Teacher's Guide for Program Nos. 1-7 -- for Apple and
TRS-80, TRS-80 CoCo. With plastic
* PCA/XT 88 Personal Computer User's Guide. 143 pages. No clue who
published this, but a ton of good info.
* Wing Commander ??: Vengeance of the Kilrathi manual. By Reveal
Computer Products. 23 pages.
* Learning BASIC Programming in 14 days on Your Commodore 64 by Gil M.
Schecter (SAMS). 192 pages.
* Radio Shack JP1000 Ink Jet Printer Manual User's Guide #26-2960. 200
pages (?)
* Radio Shack JP1000 Ink Jet Printer Guide to Printing in Colour.
#26-2963. 40 pages(?).
* Radio Shack JP1000 Ink Jet Printer - Printer Driver User's Guide. 20
pages(?)
* Write Now v. 2.2 for the Macintosh manual. 235 pages.
* HyperTalk Beginner's Guide: An Introducting to Scripting. For Mac. 150
Pages.
* Macintosh manual. (2 copies... one has water-damage). 160 pages.
* Atari Games & Rectreations. Programming book for the Atari 400 and
800. reston Publishing Company.338 pages
* The Epson Connection: Macintosh by Rick Dayton. 260 pages. Use of
Epson printers with the Mac.
* Apple // Monitor // User's Manual.12 pages. (2 copies)
* Tandy Personal DeskMate 2 manual... for the 1000 series. 463 pages.
* Apple // Apple 5.25 Drive Owner's Guide. 18 pages... for
//,//+,//e,//c,//GS computers.
* Apple // Extended 80-Column Text Card Supplement - for //e only. 60
pages.
* Apple // 80-Column Text Card Manual for //e only. 75 pages. (2 copies)
* About You Enhanced Apple //e: User's Guide. 14 pages.
* BITFax manual: A Communications Program for Send Fax Modems. By Bit
Software, Inc of Multipas, CA. 91 pgs.
* Apple direct magazine. Vol. 3 No. 2 Nov. 1990. 32 pages.
* Apple schematics sheet by Data Technology. The card this is for can be
found at the bottom of the misc section
* Apple // Technical Notes - May 1988 written by Scott Knaster of Apple
Computer. 200+ pages, Stapes and 3-ring punched.
Miscellaneous
-------------------
*Archer joystick for a PC. It has a fairly 'tall' stick on it, with two
buttons on the front. Also has trim settings, auto fire option, A/b
selectors for both directions, and four suction cups on the bottom. Has
both 15 and 9 pin plugs.
*Joystick.... I'd like some information on this one. It is a tan box
about 5 inches by 3 inches. The joystick itself is just 2 inches or so
tall. Has trim settings also. Two buttons, which look like classic
self-destruct buttons or something. Is was made by TG Products of Plano,
TX. To connect it to a computer, it has a long blue ribbon cable (inch
wide?) with 15 pins on the end. The pins are just out there all by
themselves! Is this for an Apple computer?
*MCP AP-16 Memory Module: I would like some info on this. This is some
type of expansion card, etc. It is about 8 inches long and 3 inches
wide. It contains 18 chips, 10 of which say AM9016EPC & 8248FMP. The
other chips are labeled SP225, SP229, P218, SP245-b, SP220, and SP238.
The card also has a red switch on it. Really no other information...
oh, it also has 4 led lights. Please let me know something about this!
*Expansion card of some sort for the Apple //e. This is about 3"x2" as
is (c) 1988 by Applied Engineering. It says ][e 64k on the side by the
'plug-in', and on the other side is says KEYBOARD. Please let me know
how this thing is used!
* 1.5 foot cable. Adapter of some sort. Looks like a PC joystick
adapter. 15 pin male to 9 pin female.
* Joystick -- called Laser Joystick. It is small has has 2 buttons on
the side. I know of the Laser computer series, etc. (I have a Laser 300,
some kids computers, and want a Laser 50!) by V-tech... didn't realise
they made joysticks. Has a 9 pin connector on it. Does anyone know what
computer this was for, or when it was made?
* Some type of expansion card... presumably for the Apple. Has 19
various chips on it. Made by Data Technology Corp. Would love some more
tips on what this might be.
Software
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*Apple Presents the //e: An Introduction - and a backup copy which has
been copied.
*Apple DOS 3.3 DemoDisk
* Courseware Sampler by Random House: Tutorial Comprehension. Side A & B
- Apple
* Courseware Sampler by Random House: Tutorial Comprehension. Side C & D
- Apple
* Apple //e and //c Diagnostic Disk
* Using Context Clues, Program #1. for the Apple //. By Imperial
International Learning Corp.
* Sequencing Events, Program #4 for the Apple //. By Imperial
International Learning Corp.
* The O'Brien Vocabulary Placement Test by Activity Records for the
Apple // - 48k.
* Blank double sided disk
* Knowledge Master disks. Used in schools for a national competition.
Geez, I used to use these in school! For the Apple and I got 6 copies.
* Mastertype's Writer for the Apple //e and //c. By Scarborough Systems,
Inc.
* Teacher's Software Library by the Duncan Institute of New Port
Richey, FL. (Apple?)
* Scholastic PFS: Write for the Apple //c & //e. By Software Publishing
Corp.
* Math Shop for Apple //+, //e, //c. By Scholastic.
* Telewrite-80 vers. 1.0 Rev. B -- not original (copy).... for what
computer I don't know?
* IBM Assistant Home Solutions by IBM.
* Visicalc in original box by VisiCorp Personal Software. Has both
original disks and two backups. Original Manual, notebook for all, etc.
* * 3.5" disks for the Mac. Hyperdrive boot disk, HyperStudio, Stupid
Mac Tricks by Bob LeVitus, 3 disk by EduComp.
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3 Mar
3 Mar
9:25 p.m.
Cord Coslor & Deanna Wynn wrote:
* Texas Instruments TI-99/4a computer - with the
silver case. Are these
more rare than the tan cases?
Not in my experience. I've seen the silvers about 4 or 5 times as often
as the tan case model.
* Joystick -- called Laser Joystick. It is small has
has 2 buttons on
the side. I know of the Laser computer series, etc. (I have a Laser 300,
some kids computers, and want a Laser 50!) by V-tech...
I have a Laser 50, but it's currently dead. It looks kinda neat, but I
haven't spent any time yet trying to revive it.
* Some type of expansion card... presumably for the
Apple. Has 19
various chips on it. Made by Data Technology Corp. Would love some more
tips on what this might be.
Is that what DTC stands for? As in SCSI controllers... I can't
remember.
--
mor(a)crl.com
http://www.crl.com/~mor/
4 Mar
4 Mar
5:50 a.m.
At 12:25 AM 3/4/98 -0800, you wrote:
Is that what DTC stands for? As in SCSI controllers... I can't
remember.
Probably, I've seen lots of their cards. I have a couple here somewhere.
They also made controllers for non-SCSI drives but I don't remember if
they were MFM, RLL, or IDE.
6:04 a.m.
Joe wrote:
At 12:25 AM 3/4/98 -0800, you wrote:
DTC stands for Data Technologies Corp and they're still in business, with a web
site at http://www.datatechnology.com/ and there are info and setup docs
available at TheRef(c) as well, located at http://theref.c3d.rl.af.mil/.
MFM, RLL and ESDI contollers generally have one 34 pin header for the "data"
cable (and some have another 34 for the floppy controller) and two 20 pin
"control" cables, one for each drive the controller is capable of interfacing
to. IDE controllers have one or two 40 pin headers (and possibly a 34 for
floppies).
There are other things the controllers should be looked at for in the older
machines as well. The average MFM, RLL controllers are usually a 1:3 or 1:4
interleave controller but many of the better ones are 1:1 interleave.
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Is that what DTC stands for? As in SCSI controllers... I can't
remember.
Probably, I've seen lots of their cards. I have a couple here somewhere.
They also made controllers for non-SCSI drives but I don't remember if
they were MFM, RLL, or IDE.
12:07 p.m.
At 11:04 AM 3/4/98 -0600, you wrote:
Joe wrote:
a web
At 12:25 AM 3/4/98 -0800, you wrote:
DTC stands for Data Technologies Corp and they're still in business, with
Is that what DTC stands for? As in SCSI controllers... I can't
remember.
Probably, I've seen lots of their cards. I have a couple here somewhere.
They also made controllers for non-SCSI drives but I don't remember if
they were MFM, RLL, or IDE. site at http://www.datatechnology.com/ and there are
info and setup docs
available at TheRef(c) as well, located at http://theref.c3d.rl.af.mil/.
MFM, RLL and ESDI contollers generally have one 34 pin header for the "data"
Yes, I know the difference. I just haven't seen the controllers in a
couple of years. Thanks for the URL though, it might be handy if I ever
find the controllers.
Joe
7:46 a.m.
At 12:25 AM 3/4/98 -0800, you wrote:
DTC did everything but I was not exactly happy with their design of
setup and quality. I recall I can't disable the FDC.
I have 2 MFM and RLL full length 1:1 AT with FDC controllers.
One time, DTC card simply died and impossible to fix when I had bunch
of them.
Jason D.
email: jpero(a)cgo.wave.ca
Pero, Jason D.
Is that what DTC stands for? As in SCSI controllers... I can't
remember.
Probably, I've seen lots of their cards. I have a couple here somewhere.
They also made controllers for non-SCSI drives but I don't remember if
they were MFM, RLL, or IDE. 
8:03 a.m.
On Wed, 4 Mar 1998, Greg Troutman wrote:
Cord Coslor & Deanna Wynn wrote:
They also manufactured MFM/RLL hard disk controllers.
- don
* Texas Instruments TI-99/4a computer - with the
silver case. Are these
more rare than the tan cases?
Not in my experience. I've seen the silvers about 4 or 5 times as often
as the tan case model.
* Joystick -- called Laser Joystick. It is small
has has 2 buttons on
the side. I know of the Laser computer series, etc. (I have a Laser 300,
some kids computers, and want a Laser 50!) by V-tech...
I have a Laser 50, but it's currently dead. It looks kinda neat, but I
haven't spent any time yet trying to revive it.
* Some type of expansion card... presumably for
the Apple. Has 19
various chips on it. Made by Data Technology Corp. Would love some more
tips on what this might be.
Is that what DTC stands for? As in SCSI controllers... I can't
remember. --
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10:40 a.m.
At 11:03 AM 3/4/98 -0800, you wrote:
On Wed, 4 Mar 1998, Greg Troutman wrote:
> Cord Coslor & Deanna Wynn wrote:
>
> > * Texas Instruments TI-99/4a computer - with the silver case. Are these
> > more rare than the tan cases?
>
> Not in my experience. I've seen the silvers about 4 or 5 times as often
> as the tan case model.
I just came back from a trip to a trift store (brought back a truck load
of computers^H but that's another story). They had both a silver and a
tan model there. The tan one was in the original box with the original
styro-foam "take-out box" liner.
Joe
5:30 a.m.
New subject: TI 99/4 was Re: Picked up another truckload! Take a look?
At 01:07 AM 3/4/98 -0800, Cord wrote:
Greets:
* Texas Instruments TI-99/4a computer - with the silver case. Are these
more rare than the tan cases?
Not in my experience. I've seen dozens of silver TIs but only one tan one.
Joe
6:17 a.m.
On Wed, 4 Mar 1998, Cord Coslor & Deanna Wynn wrote:
*Joystick.... I'd like some information on this
one. It is a tan box
about 5 inches by 3 inches. The joystick itself is just 2 inches or so
tall. Has trim settings also. Two buttons, which look like classic
self-destruct buttons or something. Is was made by TG Products of Plano,
TX. To connect it to a computer, it has a long blue ribbon cable (inch
wide?) with 15 pins on the end. The pins are just out there all by
themselves! Is this for an Apple computer?
This is indeed for the Apple. It connects to a socket inside the case in
the upper-righthand area of the motherboard (with the keyboard facing
you). It is probably the highest (or one of the highest) quailty
joysticks ever to be made for the Apple. A true classic.
*Expansion card of some sort for the Apple //e. This
is about 3"x2" as
is (c) 1988 by Applied Engineering. It says ][e 64k on the side by the
'plug-in', and on the other side is says KEYBOARD. Please let me know
how this thing is used!
A 64K/80 Column card for the Apple. This plugs into the auxiliary slot.
The "KEYBOARD" is there to make sure you don't plug it in backwards
(the "KEYBOARD" end should face the keyboard).
Sam Alternate e-mail: dastar(a)siconic.com
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6:28 a.m.
Sam Ismail wrote:
On Wed, 4 Mar 1998, Cord Coslor & Deanna Wynn
wrote:
These could also be used on the Sanyo MBC-55x series PC "compatible" as it also
used the Apple socket type joystick.
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*Joystick.... I'd like some information on
this one. It is a tan box
about 5 inches by 3 inches. The joystick itself is just 2 inches or so
tall. Has trim settings also. Two buttons, which look like classic
self-destruct buttons or something. Is was made by TG Products of Plano,
TX. To connect it to a computer, it has a long blue ribbon cable (inch
wide?) with 15 pins on the end. The pins are just out there all by
themselves! Is this for an Apple computer?
This is indeed for the Apple. It connects to a socket inside the case in
the upper-righthand area of the motherboard (with the keyboard facing
you). It is probably the highest (or one of the highest) quailty
joysticks ever to be made for the Apple. A true classic. 
6:57 a.m.
At 11:28 AM 3/4/98 -0600, you wrote:
also
Sam Ismail wrote:
> On Wed, 4 Mar 1998, Cord Coslor & Deanna Wynn wrote:
>
> > *Joystick.... I'd like some information on this one. It is a tan box
[snip]
This is indeed for the Apple. It connects to a socket inside the case in
the upper-righthand area of the motherboard (with the keyboard facing
you). It is probably the highest (or one of the highest) quailty
joysticks ever to be made for the Apple. A true classic.
These could also be used on the Sanyo MBC-55x series PC "compatible" as it
used the Apple socket type joystick.
Was this the same Sanyo that was sold as the "Silver Fox" or something
along those lines?
Back in 1984 when my wife and I were looking for "our" first computer, we
had originally settled on the Leading Edge/Mitsubishi and called to order
one from an outfit in AZ. As usual, we were a day late, Mitsubishi had just
put the clamps on the Leading Edge mail order business the day before. We
managed to "bribe" the salesman to "buy one for himself" and ship it
to us
on the sly, but he got cold feet and backed out. Our second choice was a
toss-up between the PCjr and Silver Fox (??). We ended up with the PCjr,
which may or may not have been the better of the two. Now I have about
thirty PCjrs in storage in different states from empty boxes to complete
units.
Before the jr was unplugged for the last time, it ran the NPCjrUG BBS with
a 10MB Racore hard drive (blew up two disk drives before we got a good one,
one just from wifie's vacuum cleaner bumping the desk--needless to say, the
carpet around daddy's desk was "hand cleaned" from then on) a Racore 384K
expansion in the drive stacker, a 128K Microsoft sidecar with bus mouse and
one of the first three USR Courier 2400s in Tulsa, as far as we know. We
were so cool.
Of course, I'm getting old (39 this July), so I may have the chronology a
little screwed up.
I always wondered what that Silver whatchamacallit would have been like...
Thank you,
David Wollmann
dwollmann(a)ibmhelp.com
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http://www.ibmhelp.com/
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8:17 a.m.
David Wollmann wrote:
Well they called it the "Silver Box" but most of us that ownedd them started to
call them the "Silver Junk Box" after we really found out what clunkers they
were. They made a PCJr look to be 100% compatible. Sanyo didn't even put an ALT
key on it.
These could
also be used on the Sanyo MBC-55x series PC "compatible" as it
also
used the Apple socket type joystick.
Was this the same Sanyo that was sold as the "Silver Fox" or something
along those lines? Back in 1984 when my wife and I were looking for
"our" first computer, we
had originally settled on the Leading Edge/Mitsubishi and called to order
one from an outfit in AZ. As usual, we were a day late, Mitsubishi had just
put the clamps on the Leading Edge mail order business the day before. We
managed to "bribe" the salesman to "buy one for himself" and ship it
to us
on the sly, but he got cold feet and backed out. Our second choice was a
toss-up between the PCjr and Silver Fox (??). We ended up with the PCjr,
which may or may not have been the better of the two. Now I have about
thirty PCjrs in storage in different states from empty boxes to complete
units.
I guess you wouldn't want to buy a PCJr color display then (grin). You ended up
way ahead, believe me. At least the Jr runs MS-DOS that the others can run, not
a hacked version.
Before the jr was unplugged for the last time, it ran
the NPCjrUG BBS with
a 10MB Racore hard drive (blew up two disk drives before we got a good one,
one just from wifie's vacuum cleaner bumping the desk--needless to say, the
carpet around daddy's desk was "hand cleaned" from then on) a Racore 384K
expansion in the drive stacker, a 128K Microsoft sidecar with bus mouse and
one of the first three USR Courier 2400s in Tulsa, as far as we know. We
were so cool.
I too put a lot of unecessary time and money into my "compatible" to find that
it was a real pain to hang onto. I've had offers of free Sanyo (I pronounce it
Say-No anymore) four or five times and without hesitation refused them all. No
more Sanyo anything in computers for me. I ran Fido off 4 floppies on the Sanyo
as well down in Champaign-Urbana Illinois for a while too.
Of course, I'm getting old (39 this July), so I
may have the chronology a
little screwed up.
Wanna trade? I just turned 41 last month.
I always wondered what that Silver whatchamacallit
would have been like...
I haven't even scratched the surface but you can imagine.
Pretty nice site, I'll have to explore this one more....
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9:23 a.m.
At 01:17 PM 3/4/98 -0600, you wrote:
David Wollmann wrote:
[snipperoo]
Pretty nice site, I'll have to explore this one more....
I think it's kinda lame right now, the top destination page and top exit
page is the list of links to IBM on the web, if that tells you anything. :)
The funny thing is, most of the hits come from Research Triangle Park, he
he he.
I've got an IBM tech specs database about 70% complete and we're going to
put it on the site. It includes all the Family One, almost all the PS/1s,
PS/2s, Aptivas, etc. and some of the midrange boxes. The only problem right
now is, ASPs seem to be a little shakey, and as frequent as crashes are on
the NT/IIS box our site is on, I'm afraid to try it since my queries are
going to pull about 35 columns (several with lookups) on a busy box. I may
wait until I finish switching over to dedicated ISDN with a router and move
the site over to our own Linux box running Apache. I think I'd rather spend
my time learning Postgres than Mickeysoft's stuff anyway.
Soon as I get my Snappy I'm going to start adding some pics--shooting every
IBM box I have and every one that comes through here, then copy the GIF to
the database.
The next step is to dump all the old 8" Displaywriter, System/23 and 8" and
5.25" System/36 software distribution diskettes we've got here out to disk
and press a CD of the images--the media are starting to get a little dicey.
They won't be worth anything to anyone else unless they have a MicroTech 8"
on a PC, or something similar, but I really want to preserve these binaries
since IBM doesn't archive them.
If I can ever find time, I want to start archiving the old manuals too.
Anybody got a spare ADF for a ScanJet 4p?
All this, and a System/36 emulator for Linux.
Dave, the Rambling Computer Crazy
10:24 p.m.
On Wed, 4 Mar 1998, Russ Blakeman wrote:
Well they called it the "Silver Box" but
most of us that ownedd them
started to call them the "Silver Junk Box" after we really found out
what clunkers they were. They made a PCJr look to be 100% compatible.
Sanyo didn't even put an ALT key on it.
Ouch. As former editor of some San Diego Sanyo MBC newsletter who's name
escapes me, I must protest. I thought the Sanyo keyboard was much better
than the klicky IBM keyboard, and it had that one key that lights up.
Plus the silver box was very cool looking in a cheap stereo kind of way.
It was a welcome challenge trying to get the Sanyo to do things the other
PC's could do. And it was pretty hackable. I remember porting KERMIT to
work with the non-standard serial ports (8251?) after Sanyo sent me the
source of their BIOS.... OK, I also remember running away from the Sanyo
as fast as I could once the cheap clones from Taiwan got off the boat.
-- Doug
5 Mar
5 Mar
1:15 a.m.
In article <Pine.LNX.3.95.980305030941.24164B-
100000(a)behemoth.host4u.net>gt;, Doug Yowza <yowza(a)yowza.com> writes
On Wed, 4 Mar 1998, Russ Blakeman wrote:
It was a welcome challenge trying to get the Sanyo to do things the other
PC's could do. And it was pretty hackable. I remember porting KERMIT to
work with the non-standard serial ports (8251?) after Sanyo sent me the
source of their BIOS.... OK, I also remember running away from the Sanyo
as fast as I could once the cheap clones from Taiwan got off the boat.
I once had a
commission from a QC (=Queen's Counsel) to try to work out
why the nice daisy-wheel printer he had bought was messing up the
printout from Wordstar running on his Sanyo.
After much messing around with cables, printer settings and everything
else, we found that the Sanyo BIOS had a 60s or so timeout on the serial
transmit, and when it timed out it would just drop the character and
return, which is a little bit embarrassing when you're printing out
high-powered legal documents.
The first fix was to disable the 16k buffer in the printer so that it
couldn't sit there for minutes at a time draining the buffer down to the
point at which it turned DTR back on, but a friend at Sanyo patched the
BIOS to make the timeout much longer. After that everyone was happy,
except perhaps whoever was being sued by the QC to pay my bill.
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3:08 a.m.
Doug Yowza wrote:
On Wed, 4 Mar 1998, Russ Blakeman wrote:
It's all in what you like I guess, hence people search forever for parts for
the Rambler they own...The newsletter is still out - Sanyo PC Hacker's
Newsletter - and it never says a thing about the Sanyo anything. I don't know
why Victor Frank even publishes it anymore. The "First Sanyo Opus BBS" is
still online in Pennsylvania too and it has just a few 55x specific files on
it, otherwise they're invisible. Soft Sector magazine is gone but Falsoft
Publishing is still very alive out this way in the Louisville area. They
nearly went under with the demise of the magazine, but only due to the way
they did the subscribers. They decided overnight to dump the magazine which
was the bible of the 55x machines and suddenly Sanyo owners were getting a
Tandy 1000 series support publication. I remember myself and thousands of
other subscribers calling Falsoft and demanding a refund of the remaining
prepaid subscription. We got them too.
Well they called it the "Silver Box"
but most of us that ownedd them
started to call them the "Silver Junk Box" after we really found out
what clunkers they were. They made a PCJr look to be 100% compatible.
Sanyo didn't even put an ALT key on it.
Ouch. As former editor of some San Diego Sanyo MBC newsletter who's name
escapes me, I must protest. I thought the Sanyo keyboard was much better
than the klicky IBM keyboard, and it had that one key that lights up.
Plus the silver box was very cool looking in a cheap stereo kind of way. It was a welcome challenge trying to get the Sanyo to
do things the other
PC's could do. And it was pretty hackable. I remember porting KERMIT to
work with the non-standard serial ports (8251?) after Sanyo sent me the
source of their BIOS.... OK, I also remember running away from the Sanyo
as fast as I could once the cheap clones from Taiwan got off the boat.
Like the first thing you had to do was to modify the power supply to keep it
from tripping under the load of two floppies and the
optional CGA video
card/memory. Then hacking the joystick port to bring the Apple
port out to
the back so you could use an IBM 15 pin sub-d. Then dealing with the 8251
UART instead of the 8250 for the optional and very expensive serial
port...and the list goes on. I did learn a lot with the machine though. By
seeing what the IBM did and trying to get the "box" to do that taught me that
I too needed to sell mine as quick as possible.
I remember seeing articles in the SPCH newsletter with your name in the past.
I don't remember specific things but that's good as if I did it would mean
that I strongly disagreed with the article or was overly impressed. Mostly
disagreed with were the ones I remember.
Take care Doug.
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7:17 a.m.
Sam Ismail wrote:
Oh really? That is weird. :) I used to have *3* MBC 555 w/o HDC,
just basic 2 180K drives and maxed out one or two to 256k and played
with them until it blew up. Do you have more info about these MBC
555's and I'm bit puzzled by everyone's comments about quality, Sanyo
made those boxes that IBM put to shame in quality overall in their PC
and XT boxes.
The power supplies is oh goody old fashioned linear type not switcher
and all bare. The fan is ball bearing type and very SILENT, I still
have this fan.
Jason D.
email: jpero(a)cgo.wave.ca
Pero, Jason D.
This is indeed for the Apple. It connects to a socket inside the case in
the upper-righthand area of the motherboard (with the keyboard facing
you). It is probably the highest (or one of the highest) quailty
joysticks ever to be made for the Apple. A true classic.
These could also be used on the Sanyo MBC-55x series PC "compatible" as it
also
used the Apple socket type joystick.
6:27 p.m.
At 06:17 PM 3/4/98 +0000, you wrote:
The power suppply was also so weak that it died if you stuck a 8087 in
the machine. I used to have to unplug one of my floppy drives in order to
use the 8087.
Joe
> Sam Ismail wrote:
>
> >
> > This is indeed for the Apple. It connects to a socket inside the case in
> > the upper-righthand area of the motherboard (with the keyboard facing
> > you). It is probably the highest (or one of the highest) quailty
> > joysticks ever to be made for the Apple. A true classic.
>
> These could also be used on the Sanyo MBC-55x series PC "compatible" as
it also
used the Apple
socket type joystick.
Oh really? That is weird. :) I used to have *3* MBC 555 w/o HDC,
just basic 2 180K drives and maxed out one or two to 256k and played
with them until it blew up. Do you have more info about these MBC
555's and I'm bit puzzled by everyone's comments about quality, Sanyo
made those boxes that IBM put to shame in quality overall in their PC
and XT boxes.
The power supplies is oh goody old fashioned linear type not switcher
and all bare. The fan is ball bearing type and very SILENT, I still
have this fan.
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