At 07:24 PM 3/19/02 +0000, Tony wrote: Buy? Who said anything about buying??? I can get all the drives that I want for next to nothing. If I do pay for a PC, it's only about $1 each. FWIW The REAL QD 80 track drives and disks are starting to become scarce so I've started picking them up when I find them. and go through the effort of cabling it I have docs for the Mitsubishi 4853 (that's what I use). I have an old PC that I picked up from a trash pile that I use for disk copying/transfers/etc. I've installed a CompatiCard and about six different drives in. (Total cost so far: $4.00 for the CompatiCard) I haven't put an 80 track (80 cylinder!) drive in it yet since I haven't needed one but I've got two perfectly fine 4853s laying here and looking for a cause. That hasn't been my experience. Most of the times that I use a 1.2M drive to read/write other formats, it fails. Even when it doesn't fail the copies don't hold up well. I could NEVER read my SB 180 disks (QD) in a 1.2 Mb drive. In fact, I finally pulled the 1.2 Mb drive out of my main PC and put a 360k drive back into it since the 5 1/4" drive was used almost entirely for reading/writing old disks. Joe

Jeff, They came out of that custom built machine that had all the GAPP cards in it but right now they're not in anything. FWIW the 4853s were used in the Zenith Z-100s. I had some of them in the two z-100s that I had. That's were I got the docs for them from. I'm not sure but I think the two SB-180s that I used to have also used 4853s. Joe At 04:28 PM 3/19/02 -0500, you wrote: