See how long it's been for me? Anyway I used to go to IIT, also used to get off the bus in front of Cabrini-Green - never a problem. I last worked off Canal near Sears Tower and got off at 1am and other than a pot smoking stoned CTA driver I never had problems. I do still remember when they dug out the Dan Ryan near my grandparent's place where the Ryan, I-57 and the Calumet all meet/split and when ML King Drive was called South Park. I sure miss the old ballpark too and the old Greek neighborhood around it. The new one looks like a salad bowl made of concrete that you should set out for birds to bathe in. => -----Original Message----- => From: owner-classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org => [mailto:owner-classiccmp@classiccmp.org]On Behalf Of Feldman, Robert => Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 11:27 AM => To: &#39;classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org&#39; => Subject: RE: Interesting places in Chicago area? => => => IIT is around 33rd Street, near the White Sox ball park; MSI is at 57th => street, 3 miles to the south and just east of the University of => Chicago (8 => hundreds, e.g. 32nd Street to 40th Street, is a mile) The MSI is about 2 => miles _east_ of Michigan Ave. Best way to get there is by Lake => Shore Drive. => You can get to IIT from the Dan Ryan Expressway. => => Neither area is that safe at night. During the day, the IIT => campus itself is => OK, but the area around it has a number of housing projects. The => area north => and west of the University of Chicago/MSI is a bit dicey, also. => => Bob => => -----Original Message----- => From: Dan Wright [mailto:dtwright@uiuc.edu] => Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 10:48 AM => To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org => Subject: Re: Interesting places in Chicago area? => => => Russ Blakeman said: => <snip> => > => > On the BW map you'll see where Ill Inst of tech is (known as => IIT) - that's => > the general area where MSI is at - it should be just east of => IIT on 55th. => Of => > course there are other ways too, like going downtown when you dome into => the => > city on I-290 then going south on Michigan Ave (less of "the => hood" to to => go => > thru, a lot longer trip) => => Yeah...but don't go visit IIT. seriously. the museum is on the museum => campus => by the lake, which is pretty safe and nice, but you REALLY don't => want to go => much west of there, especially if you're not from the area... => => <snip> =>