1 Mar
2009
1 Mar
'09
11:57 p.m.
Since it seems like Zilog is intent on committing suicide by getting rid
of its engineers, does anyone have any ideas on who will acquire the ruins
when it's all over?
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2 Mar
2 Mar
8:24 a.m.
Since it seems like Zilog is intent on committing
suicide by getting rid
of its engineers, does anyone have any ideas on who will acquire the ruins
when it's all over?
Commodore? (*)
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(*) It was rumoured at one time that CSG was looking at buying Zilog back
in the day, which would have been a weird fit with MOS. But of course I'm
just being snarky.
8:54 a.m.
Commodore? You mean Yeahronimo??? The bought the rights to
Commodore and appear to be out of business. Though there was an
announcement very early last year of a Commodore badged Netbook, it
unfortunately was severely underpowered and overpriced, so its highly
unlikely it could compete against the likes of ASUS and other Netbook
leaders.
Curt
Cameron Kaiser wrote:
Since it seems
like Zilog is intent on committing suicide by getting rid
of its engineers, does anyone have any ideas on who will acquire the ruins
when it's all over?
Commodore? (*)
9:20 a.m.
Commodore? You mean Yeahronimo??? The bought the
rights to
Commodore and appear to be out of business. Though there was an
announcement very early last year of a Commodore badged Netbook, it
unfortunately was severely underpowered and overpriced, so its highly
unlikely it could compete against the likes of ASUS and other Netbook
leaders.
You didn't read my (*) at the bottom, did you? ;-)
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9:27 a.m.
Ah!!! Sorry, missed that! :-)
Curt
Cameron Kaiser wrote:
Commodore?
You mean Yeahronimo??? The bought the rights to
Commodore and appear to be out of business. Though there was an
announcement very early last year of a Commodore badged Netbook, it
unfortunately was severely underpowered and overpriced, so its highly
unlikely it could compete against the likes of ASUS and other Netbook
leaders.
You didn't read my (*) at the bottom, did you? ;-)
9:49 a.m.
Curt Vendel - Atarimuseum wrote:
Commodore? You mean Yeahronimo??? The bought the
rights to
Commodore and appear to be out of business. Though there was an
announcement very early last year of a Commodore badged Netbook, it
unfortunately was severely underpowered and overpriced, so its highly
unlikely it could compete against the likes of ASUS and other Netbook
leaders.
So then, who has ownership of things like the Commodore 64, Vic-20, and
Pet ROMs and the like? I know there's some company selling an Amiga
emulator with legal kickstart ROMs, but what about the rest of the old
8-bitters?
10:08 a.m.
It all folded under Commodore Gaming. www.commodoregaming.com They
sell PC's with skinned cases. Looks like they are trying to compete
against Dell/Alienware in the highend PC gaming market.
Curt
Ray Arachelian wrote:
Curt Vendel - Atarimuseum wrote:
Commodore? You mean Yeahronimo??? The bought
the rights to
Commodore and appear to be out of business. Though there was an
announcement very early last year of a Commodore badged Netbook, it
unfortunately was severely underpowered and overpriced, so its highly
unlikely it could compete against the likes of ASUS and other Netbook
leaders.
So then, who has ownership of things like the Commodore 64, Vic-20, and
Pet ROMs and the like? I know there's some company selling an Amiga
emulator with legal kickstart ROMs, but what about the rest of the old
8-bitters?
12:56 p.m.
It all folded under Commodore Gaming.
www.commodoregaming.com They
sell PC's with skinned cases. Looks like they are trying to compete
against Dell/Alienware in the highend PC gaming market.
Actually, I'm pretty sure it *isn't* them. CG only bought rights to the
name (in this case from Yeahromino, after Tulip sold the name to them),
based on my (admittedly cursory) conversations with their management. The
ROM rights are a little more nebulous, but CG definitely doesn't have them.
My suspicion is that the engineering IP wasn't part of the Tulip->Yeahronimo
sale, so Tulip probably still has the copyright. Tulip did get money from the
C64 30-in-1 sales, so at least at that time they still had the rights.
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3:51 p.m.
Well, in all seriousness from the way we all let this topic get
sidetracked.... If Zilog is really going the way of the dinosaurs...
someone needs to get in there, get any original photoplots, designs,
memo's, photographs and other historically relevant materials to
preserve this company.
Curt
11:06 a.m.
On Mon, 2 Mar 2009, Ray Arachelian wrote:
So then, who has ownership of things like the
Commodore 64, Vic-20, and
Pet ROMs and the like? I know there's some company selling an Amiga
emulator with legal kickstart ROMs, but what about the rest of the old
8-bitters?
Howzbout we chip in, buy the rights, and hand them over to Geri Ellsworth?
11:12 a.m.
New subject: [Spam] Re: Zilog suicide
Unfortunately the forces of irrationalism would never allow something
that makes total sense like turning Commodore over to competent hands
like Geri's... It seems that (with the exception of Apple)
companies wind up in the hands of incompetents who can not understand or
appreciate the true importance or legacy of the company and its
products, so it never seems to happen :-(
Curt
Fred Cisin wrote:
On Mon, 2 Mar 2009, Ray Arachelian wrote:
So then, who has ownership of things like the
Commodore 64, Vic-20, and
Pet ROMs and the like? I know there's some company selling an Amiga
emulator with legal kickstart ROMs, but what about the rest of the old
8-bitters?
Howzbout we chip in, buy the rights, and hand them over to Geri Ellsworth?
11:23 a.m.
Fred Cisin wrote:
On Mon, 2 Mar 2009, Ray Arachelian wrote:
Sounds good to me. Or better yet release them under the GPL or
something similar (since they're binary).
So then, who has ownership of things like the
Commodore 64, Vic-20, and
Pet ROMs and the like? I know there's some company selling an Amiga
emulator with legal kickstart ROMs, but what about the rest of the old
8-bitters?
Howzbout we chip in, buy the rights, and hand them over to Geri Ellsworth?
2:10 p.m.
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Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 4:53 PM
Subject: Re: Zilog suicide
Yea, but you know is going to be wearing the soldering iron in that
relationship....
Howzbout we
chip in, buy the rights, and hand them over to Geri
Ellsworth?
I'd hand her a marrying ring... 
3:45 p.m.
Howzbout we chip in, buy the rights, and hand them
over to Geri
Ellsworth?
I'd hand her a marrying ring...
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