17 Oct
2013
17 Oct
'13
9:24 p.m.
I see all sorts of stuff for collecting/trading around here, but not a lot of IBM
equipment.
Anyone do much hobbying of IBM stuff, especially S/360, S/370, and S/390?
Anyone know where I could find some interesting artifacts, like a 1052? Or other
similar-vintage stuff?
Thanks in advance!
-Ben
17 Oct
17 Oct
9:32 p.m.
I see all sorts of stuff for collecting/trading around
here, but not a lot of IBM equipment.
Anyone do much hobbying of IBM stuff, especially S/360, S/370, and S/390?
Well, I struggled a 029 and 729 on and off a truck today...the 029 was
the easy one. Oh, and an 9922 (ten points if anyone knows what a 9922
is).
Anyone know where I could find some interesting
artifacts, like a 1052? Or other similar-vintage stuff?
1052s are very rare.
S/360 through S/390 is quite a large, diverse era. Could you be more specific?
--
Will
18 Oct
18 Oct
5 p.m.
-----Original Message-----
From: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-
bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of William Donzelli
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2013 6:33 PM
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: Re: Really old IBM gear
Yes, if I knew of a 1052 I wouldn't tell you about it until it was safe here on our
loading dock. :-)
'Hobbying' for this equipment is challenging given the power, HVAC and floor
loading requirements. IMHO -- Ian
I see all sorts of stuff for collecting/trading
around here, but not a lot of
IBM equipment.
Anyone do much hobbying of IBM stuff, especially
S/360, S/370, and S/390?
Well, I struggled a 029 and 729 on and off a truck today...the 029 was the easy
one. Oh, and an 9922 (ten points if anyone knows what a 9922 is).
Anyone know where I could find some interesting
artifacts, like a 1052? Or
other similar-vintage stuff?
1052s are very rare.
19 Oct
19 Oct
5:31 p.m.
Yes, if I knew of a 1052 I wouldn't tell you about
it until it was safe here on our loading dock. :-)
Well that's not very nice. ;) If no one helped eachother out, no one would be able to
find anything! :-) I'd pass a lead on to you for something that wasn't on my
list or within my budget... But I get what you're saying.
'Hobbying' for this equipment is challenging
given the power, HVAC and floor loading requirements. IMHO -- Ian
Very true.
________________________________________
From: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org [cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] on behalf of Ian
King [IanK at LivingComputerMuseum.org]
Sent: Friday, October 18, 2013 2:00 PM
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: RE: Really old IBM gear
-----Original Message-----
From: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-
bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of William Donzelli
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2013 6:33 PM
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: Re: Really old IBM gear
Yes, if I knew of a 1052 I wouldn't tell you about it until it was safe here on our
loading dock. :-)
'Hobbying' for this equipment is challenging given the power, HVAC and floor
loading requirements. IMHO -- Ian
I see all sorts of stuff for collecting/trading
around here, but not a lot of
IBM equipment.
Anyone do much hobbying of IBM stuff, especially
S/360, S/370, and S/390?
Well, I struggled a 029 and 729 on and off a truck today...the 029 was the easy
one. Oh, and an 9922 (ten points if anyone knows what a 9922 is).
Anyone know where I could find some interesting
artifacts, like a 1052? Or
other similar-vintage stuff?
1052s are very rare.
22 Oct
22 Oct
5:32 p.m.
-----Original Message-----
From: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-
bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Benjamin Huntsman
Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2013 2:31 PM
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: RE: Really old IBM gear
Yes, the comment was tongue-in-cheek. In fact, when there's something I find
that's out of our scope I do my best to make sure that others who might really be
interested get to know about it. Priority goes first to those I know are committed to
restoring and preserving machines in running condition, secondly to safe places for them
to be until they someday get conveyed to someone who will restore them.
I've been known to put considerable legwork into finding homes for interesting things
we just can't take. FWIW -- Ian
Yes, if I knew of a 1052 I wouldn't tell you
about it until it was safe
here on our loading dock. :-)
Well that's not very nice. ;) If no one helped eachother out, no one would be
able to find anything! :-) I'd pass a lead on to you for something that wasn't
on my list or within my budget... But I get what you're saying. 'Hobbying' for this equipment is
challenging given the power, HVAC and
floor loading requirements. IMHO -- Ian
Very true. 
18 Oct
18 Oct
6:54 a.m.
Benjamin Huntsman <BHuntsman at mail2.cu-portland.edu> schrieb am 3:25 Freitag,
18.Oktober 2013:
I see all sorts of stuff for collecting/trading around here, but not a lot of IBM
equipment.
Anyone do much hobbying of IBM stuff, especially S/360,
S/370, and S/390?
Anyone know where I could find some interesting artifacts, like a 1052?? Or other
similar-vintage stuff?
There's a S/390 G5 sleeping at my place. I haven't had the time yet to install and
work with it, but as soon as that happens, I will write about it on my website.
Kind regards,
Pierre
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Pierre's collection of classic computers : http://classic-computing.dyndns.org/
22 Oct
22 Oct
4:40 p.m.
Anyone do much hobbying of IBM stuff, especially
S/360, S/370, and S/390?
Big Iron collectors (not that weenie large iron stuff that DEC mostly
made) are notoriously private. A few hang out here, lurking.
Anyone know where I could find some interesting
artifacts, like a 1052? Or other similar-vintage stuff?
I have a rough 1052 with the control unit, but it is not really for
sale - trade maybe for something I need. It is the only one I have
ever seen in the wild.
Basically, S/360 era gear is very difficult to find - especially the
processors. S/370 era gear is much more available, to a point, but the
processors are still maddening well hid. Unit record gear is more
common that this later stuff, but very few collectors want it. Every
year I turn up a cache of unit record gear, but beyond keypunches and
maybe a sorter or two, it all gets orphaned or scrapped.
--
Will
23 Oct
23 Oct
3:46 a.m.
S/390s show up periodically, and some of them are small enough for the spare bedroom
hobbyist of modest means. That how I got mine. I have a 9221. The maddening thing is the
bits to go with it. For instance, mine came without cabling, and it's a transition
model that still used bus and tag. For that reason I've never been able to do
anything with it. The cabling is rare side its scap value is huge, and making new is
insanely expensive.
The 9221 is the one item that I'm not considering for my clear out, despite its size.
That one really is going to a museum. The reason is the museum has a set of cables, and
they don't actually have an IBM architecture mainframe. With the anniversary coming up
next year. I thought it'd be jolly to try and get the system going for display in
line with that.
Sometimes, getting involved in a club or a museum is a much better option than having a
private collection due to the power and space issues. You also get to play with a much
wider range of gear. I never imagined I'd sit a class in the architecture and
operation of an Elliott 803, but I admit it was fascinating. They built it out of bit
serial magnetic core logic using pulse trains.
-Colin
On 22 Oct 2013, at 21:40, William Donzelli <wdonzelli at gmail.com> wrote:
Anyone do much
hobbying of IBM stuff, especially S/360, S/370, and S/390?
Big Iron collectors (not that weenie large iron stuff that DEC mostly
made) are notoriously private. A few hang out here, lurking.
Anyone know where I could find some interesting
artifacts, like a 1052? Or other similar-vintage stuff?
I have a rough 1052 with the control unit, but it is not really for
sale - trade maybe for something I need. It is the only one I have
ever seen in the wild.
Basically, S/360 era gear is very difficult to find - especially the
processors. S/370 era gear is much more available, to a point, but the
processors are still maddening well hid. Unit record gear is more
common that this later stuff, but very few collectors want it. Every
year I turn up a cache of unit record gear, but beyond keypunches and
maybe a sorter or two, it all gets orphaned or scrapped.
--
Will
3:53 a.m.
Just before the pedants have me in their sites, the 9221 is technically an ES/9000. The
didn't rebrand to S/390 until slightly later.
On 23 Oct 2013, at 08:46, Colin Eby <colineby at isallthat.com> wrote:
S/390s show up periodically, and some of them are small enough for the spare bedroom
hobbyist of modest means. That how I got mine. I have a 9221. The maddening thing is the
bits to go with it. For instance, mine came without cabling, and it's a transition
model that still used bus and tag. For that reason I've never been able to do
anything with it. The cabling is rare side its scap value is huge, and making new is
insanely expensive.
The 9221 is the one item that I'm not considering for my clear out, despite its size.
That one really is going to a museum. The reason is the museum has a set of cables, and
they don't actually have an IBM architecture mainframe. With the anniversary coming up
next year. I thought it'd be jolly to try and get the system going for display in
line with that.
Sometimes, getting involved in a club or a museum is a much better option than having a
private collection due to the power and space issues. You also get to play with a much
wider range of gear. I never imagined I'd sit a class in the architecture and
operation of an Elliott 803, but I admit it was fascinating. They built it out of bit
serial magnetic core logic using pulse trains.
-Colin
On 22 Oct 2013, at 21:40, William Donzelli <wdonzelli at gmail.com> wrote:
Anyone do
much hobbying of IBM stuff, especially S/360, S/370, and S/390?
Big Iron collectors (not that weenie large iron stuff that DEC mostly
made) are notoriously private. A few hang out here, lurking.
Anyone know where I could find some interesting
artifacts, like a 1052? Or other similar-vintage stuff?
I have a rough 1052 with the control unit, but it is not really for
sale - trade maybe for something I need. It is the only one I have
ever seen in the wild.
Basically, S/360 era gear is very difficult to find - especially the
processors. S/370 era gear is much more available, to a point, but the
processors are still maddening well hid. Unit record gear is more
common that this later stuff, but very few collectors want it. Every
year I turn up a cache of unit record gear, but beyond keypunches and
maybe a sorter or two, it all gets orphaned or scrapped.
--
Will
10:21 a.m.
On Wed, 23 Oct 2013, Colin Eby wrote:
Just before the pedants have me in their sites, the
9221 is technically
an ES/9000. The didn't rebrand to S/390 until slightly later.
"sights"
*grins, ducks, runs*
g.
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On 22 Oct 2013, at 17:04, "William Donzelli" <wdonzelli at gmail.com>
wrote:
S/390 gear is easier to find for sure. ;)
Anyone do much
hobbying of IBM stuff, especially S/360, S/370, and S/390?
Big Iron collectors (not that weenie large iron stuff that DEC mostly
made) are notoriously private. A few hang out here, lurking.
Anyone know where I could find some interesting
artifacts, like a 1052? Or other similar-vintage stuff?
I have a rough 1052 with the control unit, but it is not really for
sale - trade maybe for something I need. It is the only one I have
ever seen in the wild.
Basically, S/360 era gear is very difficult to find - especially the
processors. S/370 era gear is much more available, to a point, but the
processors are still maddening well hid. Unit record gear is more
common that this later stuff, but very few collectors want it. Every
year I turn up a cache of unit record gear, but beyond keypunches and
maybe a sorter or two, it all gets orphaned or scrapped.
--
Will
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