Wrong... Just like computers, there are certain cars that are more desirable than others. You wanna collect cars? There's half a dozen parked in my neighorhood that you can get for free. OH.. That's no good enough, you want the 55 T-Bird and you expect to get it for nothing. You wanna collect computers? The thrift stores are full of 386s and 486s that you can get for next to nothing! Truck loads of em go in the landfill every single day. Nooooo... You wanna collect fancy computers with blinken lights and all kinda of cool stuff that noone else has and you expect to get it for nothing. Get over it! As a fairly new collector, I gotta say, you guys are spoiled. No-one ever gave me an ALTAIR and I still love the hobby. Sorry about the rant but, this argument is getting REALLY old. You wanna flame me, do it off line. I'm sure most of the other members are tired of hearing it too. Steve Robertson - <steverob(a)hotoffice.com>