11 Feb
2004
11 Feb
'04
6:30 p.m.
I have a Sound Blaster CT1600 with an odd daughterboard attached by a
40-pin ribbon cable. The daughterboard, labelled CT1331, actually plugs
into an adjacent slot and just has a socket for the ribbon cable, a bunch
of diodes (17 to be exact) which I assume are some sort of protection for
the signals coming off the card, and a DC-37 connector on the outside.
Nothing googles up.
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11 Feb
11 Feb
6:57 p.m.
On Thursday 12 February 2004 00:30, Vintage Computer Festival wrote:
I have a Sound Blaster CT1600 with an odd
daughterboard attached by a
40-pin ribbon cable. The daughterboard, labelled CT1331, actually
plugs into an adjacent slot and just has a socket for the ribbon
cable, a bunch of diodes (17 to be exact) which I assume are some
sort of protection for the signals coming off the card, and a DC-37
connector on the outside.
From looking at a picture of a CT1600 (SB Pro 2) on
ebay, I'm willing to
bet (Over 93.6% sure!) that the 40-pin header is for a
CDROM drive of
some type, and the 2nd card is there so you can use the CDROM in an
external case of some sort.
In fact, looking at this page (can't get the real site to load, so using
the google cache:
http://216.239.41.104/search?q=cache:fj4ZEFuJ0m0J:th99.pley.org/i/i16snd_1.…
Search down the page for CT1600, and you'll see it has a "CD-ROM
interface". So, I'm pretty sure that's what the board is for.
Pat
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7:02 p.m.
On Thu, 12 Feb 2004, Patrick Finnegan wrote:
From looking at a picture of a CT1600 (SB Pro 2) on
ebay, I'm willing to
bet (Over 93.6% sure!) that the 40-pin header is for a CDROM drive of
some type, and the 2nd card is there so you can use the CDROM in an
external case of some sort.
In fact, looking at this page (can't get the real site to load, so using
the google cache:
http://216.239.41.104/search?q=cache:fj4ZEFuJ0m0J:th99.pley.org/i/i16snd_1.…
Search down the page for CT1600, and you'll see it has a "CD-ROM
interface". So, I'm pretty sure that's what the board is for.
Ok, makes sense.
Thanks!
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7:28 p.m.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Vintage Computer Festival" <vcf(a)siconic.com>
To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
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Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2004 1:02 AM
Subject: Re: Help ID this bizarro Sound Blaster
Yes that's what it is. I have an old setup like here somewhere in my parts
bin. The difference is mine had a Molex power connector on the second card
(so the internal PC supply provided power to the external cdrom).
On Thu, 12 Feb 2004, Patrick Finnegan wrote:
> From looking at a picture of a CT1600 (SB Pro 2) on ebay, I'm willing to
> bet (Over 93.6% sure!) that the 40-pin header is for a CDROM drive of
> some type, and the 2nd card is there so you can use the CDROM in an
> external case of some sort.
>
> In fact, looking at this page (can't get the real site to load, so using
> the google cache:
>
http://216.239.41.104/search?q=cache:fj4ZEFuJ0m0J:th99.pley.org/i/i16snd_1.…
Search down
the page for CT1600, and you'll see it has a "CD-ROM
interface". So, I'm pretty sure that's what the board is for.
Ok, makes sense.
Thanks!
7:27 p.m.
Vintage Computer Festival wrote:
I have a Sound Blaster CT1600 with an odd daughterboard
attached by a
40-pin ribbon cable. The daughterboard, labelled CT1331, actually plugs
into an adjacent slot and just has a socket for the ribbon cable, a bunch
of diodes (17 to be exact) which I assume are some sort of protection for
the signals coming off the card, and a DC-37 connector on the outside.
Nothing googles up.
A google for CT1331 reveals "CT1331 External CD-ROM Pass-Through Card"
--jc
12 Feb
12 Feb
5:28 a.m.
On Thu, 12 Feb 2004, J.C. Wren wrote:
A google for CT1331 reveals "CT1331 External
CD-ROM Pass-Through Card"
from < http://www.atariarchives.org/cfn/12/05/03/0546.php >
You must be using a different Google than me because I do not see that
link coming up.
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5:33 a.m.
You didn't know? Sellam uses vintage.google.org
;-)
Curt
Vintage Computer Festival wrote:
On Thu, 12 Feb 2004, J.C. Wren wrote:
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A google for CT1331 reveals "CT1331 External
CD-ROM Pass-Through Card"
from < http://www.atariarchives.org/cfn/12/05/03/0546.php >
You must be using a different Google than me because I do not see that
link coming up.
5:38 a.m.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Vintage Computer Festival" <vcf(a)siconic.com>
To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
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Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2004 11:28 AM
Subject: Re: Help ID this bizarro Sound Blaster
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=ct1331 is the search
I used (just entered ct1331 under the WEB page) and the article was 3rd from
the bottom of the first page (1-13 of 18 hits).
I remember you had google problems before didn't you Sellam?
On Thu, 12 Feb 2004, J.C. Wren wrote:
Festival
A google for CT1331 reveals "CT1331 External
CD-ROM Pass-Through Card"
from < http://www.atariarchives.org/cfn/12/05/03/0546.php >
You must be using a different Google than me because I do not see that
link coming up.
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7:44 a.m.
On Thu, 12 Feb 2004, Teo Zenios wrote:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=ct1331 is the search
I used (just entered ct1331 under the WEB page) and the article was 3rd from
the bottom of the first page (1-13 of 18 hits).
I see it as the 7th hit on page 2, with 10 hits per page.
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5:48 a.m.
Vintage Computer Festival wrote:
7th link down in the Atari page. My search term was "ct1331" (without
quotes, although it makes no difference). As you're aware, Google
doesn't handle punctuation well, so I usually try several variants if
it's got a space or hyphen, such as "ct-1331" or "ct 1331", WITH
quotes.
You know what would be *really* cool (and expensive, and useless...) is
to interface a punch card read/writer so you can punch a google request
card, run it, and have it punch the URLS back out on cards, or print on
paper. Sort of a mixture of far ends of the tech spectrum. It'd make a
great 2 minute sound bite on TechTV.
--jc
On Thu, 12 Feb 2004, J.C. Wren wrote:
<
http://www.google.com/search?q=ct1331&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe…
A google for CT1331 reveals "CT1331 External
CD-ROM Pass-Through Card"
from < http://www.atariarchives.org/cfn/12/05/03/0546.php
You must be using a different Google than me because I do not see that
link coming up.
7:46 a.m.
On Thu, 12 Feb 2004, J.C. Wren wrote:
You know what would be *really* cool (and expensive,
and useless...) is
to interface a punch card read/writer so you can punch a google request
card, run it, and have it punch the URLS back out on cards, or print on
paper. Sort of a mixture of far ends of the tech spectrum. It'd make a
great 2 minute sound bite on TechTV.
Oh, what fun!
I'll put that down as Project #327 in the list of Whimsical Things to do
with Old Computers.
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8:12 a.m.
New subject: punch card web access?
You know what
would be *really* cool (and expensive, and useless...) is
to interface a punch card read/writer so you can punch a google request
card, run it, and have it punch the URLS back out on cards, or print on
paper. Sort of a mixture of far ends of the tech spectrum. It'd make a
great 2 minute sound bite on TechTV.
Oh, what fun!
I'll put that down as Project #327 in the list of Whimsical Things to do
with Old Computers. 
8:16 a.m.
New subject: punch card web access?
Is there some standard that would allow us to get the URL's back on cards
with UTF/Unicode? Gotta allow for different (two byte) languages.
Jay
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Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2004 1:12 PM
Subject: punch card web access?
About 10 years ago, Cliff Stoll ("Cuckoo's Egg", "Silicon Snake
Oil")
visited my office, and told me about a project that he wanted to do of
making an EAM (electro-mechanical) web server, using "cardboard
technology" (punched cards and paper tape).
I gave him a badly damaged core module, a few boxes of cards
and a manual punch.
I don't think that he ever got around to completing his project,
but he was just crazy enough to try.
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> > You know what would be *really* cool (and
expensive, and useless...)
is
> > to interface a punch card read/writer so you
can punch a google
request
> > card, run it, and have it punch the URLS
back out on cards, or print
on
> > paper. Sort of a mixture of far ends of the
tech spectrum. It'd make
a
great 2 minute sound bite on TechTV.
Oh, what
fun!
I'll put that down as Project #327 in the list of Whimsical Things to do
with Old Computers.
8:51 a.m.
New subject: punch card web access?
On Thu, 12 Feb 2004, Jay West wrote:
Is there some standard that would allow us to get the
URL's back on cards
with UTF/Unicode? Gotta allow for different (two byte) languages.
Well, you can effectively pack 12 bits per column. Maybe a modified
Unicode?
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8:19 a.m.
New subject: punch card web access?
Whats Cliff doing these days???
Anybody have Cucko's Egg on tape or DVD that they could mail me, I have
the book and its a great read, I've read it about 3-4 times over the
years, but I never got to tape the aired version.
Curt
Fred Cisin wrote:
About 10 years ago, Cliff Stoll ("Cuckoo's Egg", "Silicon Snake
Oil")
visited my office, and told me about a project that he wanted to do of
making an EAM (electro-mechanical) web server, using "cardboard
technology" (punched cards and paper tape).
I gave him a badly damaged core module, a few boxes of cards
and a manual punch.
I don't think that he ever got around to completing his project,
but he was just crazy enough to try.
--
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The Atari Museum
http://www.atarimuseum.com
The Atari Explorer
http://www.atari-explorer.com
You know what would be *really* cool (and expensive,
and useless...) is
to interface a punch card read/writer so you can punch a google request
card, run it, and have it punch the URLS back out on cards, or print on
paper. Sort of a mixture of far ends of the tech spectrum. It'd make a
great 2 minute sound bite on TechTV.
Oh, what fun!
I'll put that down as Project #327 in the list of Whimsical Things to do
with Old Computers.
8:27 a.m.
New subject: punch card web access?
>>>> "Curt" == Curt Vendel
<curt(a)atarimuseum.com> writes:
Curt> Whats Cliff doing these days???
http://www.kleinbottle.com/
paul
8:53 a.m.
New subject: punch card web access?
On Thu, 12 Feb 2004, Curt Vendel wrote:
Whats Cliff doing these days???
I guess he's just being a neo-luddite pundit writing books about how the
Internet is evil and being a physicist. I ran into him at the Computer
History Museum a couple years back. He's actually much more normal in
person than you'd think from seeing him on TV. He's also a very well guy.
Anybody have Cucko's Egg on tape or DVD that they
could mail me, I have
the book and its a great read, I've read it about 3-4 times over the
years, but I never got to tape the aired version.
I've got a recording from PBS from a few years back. I could cut you a
copy. E-mail me in private if you don't get any other hits (you know how
sapped for time I am).
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4:57 p.m.
New subject: punch card web access?
In message <Pine.LNX.4.33.0402121151270.7226-100000(a)siconic.com>om>, Vintage Compu
ter Festival writes:
I guess he's just being a neo-luddite pundit
writing books about how the
Internet is evil and being a physicist. I ran into him at the Computer
History Museum a couple years back. He's actually much more normal in
person than you'd think from seeing him on TV. He's also a very well guy.
I get the impression he's mellowed over the years. When he did
that NOVA, it looked like the cameraman had trouble keeping him
in the frame. Some years later, he gave a talk at Purdue where
he literally bounced off the wall at one point. He also mentioned
the he had been trying to keep as still as he could in the NOVA
because the directory kept yelling at him. When he was doing that
"op ed column" thing on TechTV a few years ago, he sure looked
like he was a lot calmer than earlier.
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