Rumor has it that Ron Hudson may have mentioned these words: Quick google search gave me these: http://www.freedos.org/freedos/news/technote/158.html http://www.fdisk.com/doslynx/ http://members.surfbest.net/wizard57m@surfbest.net/dos.htm http://www.dendarii.co.uk/FAQs/dos-apps.html I didn't review the links much (they seemed to have *quite* a bit of info on the subject) however, I did test the "Demon DOS Package" on the last link to see if the software was still available, and that link was still functional; at least some of the software mentioned on these pages can yet be had. HTH, Roger "Merch" Merchberger -- Roger "Merch" Merchberger | A new truth in advertising slogan sysadmin, Iceberg Computers | for MicroSoft: "We're not the oxy... zmerch(a)30below.com | ...in oxymoron!"