I don't know about cases but I do remember a TV program where an IBM guy reached into a drawer and produced the first and original wire wrapped 8088 PC prototype board. Talk about 'mother of many'!! Rod Smallwood -----Original Message----- From: cctech-bounces at classiccmp.org [mailto:cctech-bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Fred Cisin Sent: 05 March 2007 20:44 To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: Re: place your bets On Mon, 5 Mar 2007, Chris M wrote: not rhetorical (Don't you hate rhetorical questions?) There don't seem to be pictures, and the people are getting scarcer. I had a friend who worked at Microsoft in those days (and before, when you could ask for somebody on the phone by first name), but he died a few years ago.