Still cleaning-up. I found some Philips cassette drives, using digital cassettes similar to audio cassettes. Every cassette accomodates about 250K. The format used is ECMA-34, IIRC. Size : 9" deep, 5" wide and 4" high One drive is loaded horizontally (think of the Exabyte 8505 etc), and the other like the old Exabyte 8200. The rubber bands are dired out / pulverized Any interest ? Nico