5 Nov
2001
5 Nov
'01
5:24 a.m.
HP recommends a plain old water (a damp cloth) to clean printer rollers. I
just cleaned the rollers on my DeskJet 820ce and the paper feed is much
improved. It remains to be seen how long it lasts this way, though.
-----Original Message-----
From: Roger Merchberger [mailto:zmerch@30below.com]
Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 1:02 PM
To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: Rubber Restorer...
Rumor has it that Bryan Pope may have mentioned these words:
Does anyone know where I can get "Rubber
Restorer"? I know it comes in a
spray.
I thought I had bought it before at Radio Shack, but they didn't have any
or
a clue.
Not sure what kind of rubber you're trying to restore, but if it's printer
rollers you're trying to "re-stickify" what works good for me is
"Marvel
Mystery Oil." Put some on a t-shirt rag and hit all the rollers in your
inkjet or laser printer - I've "refurbished" several printers this way,
some more than once.
HTH,
Roger "Merch" Merchberger
5 Nov
5 Nov
6:09 a.m.
Iso alcohol (70% works fine) is the best as it not only washes the dust off
the rollers but cleans excess ink and gunk from the rollers. Some deskjets
work fine with this system, others need a replacement roller as the molded
fingers wear off and the roller gets shiny.
-> -----Original Message-----
-> From: owner-classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
-> [mailto:owner-classiccmp@classiccmp.org]On Behalf Of Feldman, Robert
-> Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 1:24 PM
-> To: 'classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org'
-> Subject: RE: Rubber Restorer...
->
->
-> HP recommends a plain old water (a damp cloth) to clean printer
-> rollers. I
-> just cleaned the rollers on my DeskJet 820ce and the paper feed is much
-> improved. It remains to be seen how long it lasts this way, though.
->
-> -----Original Message-----
-> From: Roger Merchberger [mailto:zmerch@30below.com]
-> Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 1:02 PM
-> To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
-> Subject: Re: Rubber Restorer...
->
->
-> Rumor has it that Bryan Pope may have mentioned these words:
->
-> >Does anyone know where I can get "Rubber Restorer"? I know it
-> comes in a
-> >spray.
-> >
-> >I thought I had bought it before at Radio Shack, but they
-> didn't have any
-> or
-> >a clue.
->
-> Not sure what kind of rubber you're trying to restore, but if
-> it's printer
-> rollers you're trying to "re-stickify" what works good for me is
"Marvel
-> Mystery Oil." Put some on a t-shirt rag and hit all the rollers in your
-> inkjet or laser printer - I've "refurbished" several printers this
way,
-> some more than once.
->
-> HTH,
-> Roger "Merch" Merchberger
->
11:02 a.m.
HP recommends a plain old water (a damp cloth) to clean
printer rollers. I
>Does anyone know where I can get "Rubber
Restorer"? I know it comes in a
>spray.
I bought a bottle of Rubber Rejuvient at Frys, Platen Cleaner is another
similar thing. Keep in mind HP is the same company that said Toner
cartridges can't be refilled, so when the wet cloth doesn't work, use the
real stuff if you don't want to buy new parts or a printer.
3:31 p.m.
On Mon, 5 Nov 2001, Mike Ford wrote:
And also don't forget that HP put out a kit for applying sandpaper to
the feed wheel tires on one of the earlier DeskJets when the tires
glazed up.
- don
HP recommends a
plain old water (a damp cloth) to clean printer rollers. I
>Does anyone know where I can get "Rubber
Restorer"? I know it comes in a
>spray.
I bought a bottle of Rubber Rejuvient at Frys, Platen Cleaner is another
similar thing. Keep in mind HP is the same company that said Toner
cartridges can't be refilled, so when the wet cloth doesn't work, use the
real stuff if you don't want to buy new parts or a printer.
10:56 p.m.
and a slip-in paper separator repair kit that adds a new thin pad to the
existing one without the need to open the unit (maninly while in warranty)
on the L series printers.
-> On Mon, 5 Nov 2001, Mike Ford wrote:
->
-> > >HP recommends a plain old water (a damp cloth) to clean
-> printer rollers. I
-> >
-> > >>Does anyone know where I can get "Rubber Restorer"? I know
-> it comes in a
-> > >>spray.
-> >
-> > I bought a bottle of Rubber Rejuvient at Frys, Platen Cleaner
-> is another
-> > similar thing. Keep in mind HP is the same company that said Toner
-> > cartridges can't be refilled, so when the wet cloth doesn't
-> work, use the
-> > real stuff if you don't want to buy new parts or a printer.
-> >
->
-> And also don't forget that HP put out a kit for applying sandpaper to
-> the feed wheel tires on one of the earlier DeskJets when the tires
-> glazed up.
-> - don
->
->
->
6 Nov
6 Nov
11:49 a.m.
New subject: Refilling Toner Carts (was RE: Rubber Restorer...)
Having been inside thousands of laser, led, and Inkjet printers in my
time, I'd have to agree with HP.
Third-party recycled toner carts can cause an ungodly mess a tech is gonna
have to clean up. Inkjet refill kits can have the same effect (but
gooeyer).
For those on the list, you know what you are doing and know what you are
getting into, but PLEASE tell your customers/clients to buy original toner
carts or carts from a known maker (such as Xerox tonor carts for hp
printers). Shopping for price is ok, but refilled carts from Joedy
Rottenkrotch are recipe for disaster.
Regards,
Jeff
In <l0310280eb80ce699bc5d(a)[192.168.1.4]>4]>, on 11/05/01
at 05:02 PM, Mike Ford <mikeford(a)socal.rr.com> said:
>HP recommends a plain old water (a damp cloth) to
clean printer rollers. I
>>Does anyone know where I can get "Rubber
Restorer"? I know it comes in a
>>spray.
I bought a bottle of Rubber Rejuvient at Frys, Platen
Cleaner is another
similar thing. Keep in mind HP is the same company that said Toner
cartridges can't be refilled, so when the wet cloth doesn't work, use the
real stuff if you don't want to buy new parts or a printer.
--
-----------------------------------------------------------
Jeffrey S. Worley
Asheville, NC USA
828-6984887
UberTechnoid(a)Home.com
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12:28 p.m.
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2:24 p.m.
New subject: Refilling Toner Carts (was RE: Rubber Restorer...)
I would agree and disagree - I have had clients with good name (Quill)
rebuilts that wee real crap. I deal with a local rebuilder that will send
someone over in a 50 mile radius if they feel the cartridge is at fault to
clean and repair your printer free, replace the cartridge free if you are
out of area. I have purchased many of their rebuilds as I (unlike many
people can do) have been in their rebuild facility and seen what they do to
recondition the EP carts. I have also seen people in a garage drilling and
filling without ever changing )or even checking) drums, wipers, seals etc.
You basically have to try a rebuilder once and then decide if their product
is of any quality.
Even HP and Lexmark state on their virgin carts that they "may contain
recycled components" meaning drums and other components so they a re new
with some rebuilt parts.
-> -----Original Message-----
-> From: owner-classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
-> [mailto:owner-classiccmp@classiccmp.org]On Behalf Of
-> UberTechnoid(a)home.com
-> Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2001 7:50 PM
-> To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
-> Subject: Refilling Toner Carts (was RE: Rubber Restorer...)
->
->
-> Having been inside thousands of laser, led, and Inkjet printers in my
-> time, I'd have to agree with HP.
->
-> Third-party recycled toner carts can cause an ungodly mess a
-> tech is gonna
-> have to clean up. Inkjet refill kits can have the same effect (but
-> gooeyer).
->
-> For those on the list, you know what you are doing and know what you are
-> getting into, but PLEASE tell your customers/clients to buy
-> original toner
-> carts or carts from a known maker (such as Xerox tonor carts for hp
-> printers). Shopping for price is ok, but refilled carts from Joedy
-> Rottenkrotch are recipe for disaster.
->
-> Regards,
->
-> Jeff
->
-> In <l0310280eb80ce699bc5d(a)[192.168.1.4]>4]>, on 11/05/01
-> at 05:02 PM, Mike Ford <mikeford(a)socal.rr.com> said:
->
-> >>HP recommends a plain old water (a damp cloth) to clean
-> printer rollers. I
->
-> >>>Does anyone know where I can get "Rubber Restorer"? I know
-> it comes in a
-> >>>spray.
->
-> >I bought a bottle of Rubber Rejuvient at Frys, Platen Cleaner is another
-> >similar thing. Keep in mind HP is the same company that said Toner
-> >cartridges can't be refilled, so when the wet cloth doesn't
-> work, use the
-> >real stuff if you don't want to buy new parts or a printer.
->
->
->
-> --
-> -----------------------------------------------------------
-> Jeffrey S. Worley
-> Asheville, NC USA
-> 828-6984887
-> UberTechnoid(a)Home.com
-> -----------------------------------------------------------
->
->
3:54 p.m.
New subject: Refilling Toner Carts (was RE: Rubber Restorer...)
I've found it's easier and cheaper to buy a used LaserJet in order to get the
partially full toner cartridge than to buy a new or "remanufactured" cartridge,
though I've bought quite a number of each. When you're done, you have an empty
cartridge that you can trade in on a remanufactured one.
Dick
----- Original Message -----
From: "Russ Blakeman" <rhblakeman(a)kih.net>
To: <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2001 9:24 PM
Subject: RE: Refilling Toner Carts (was RE: Rubber Restorer...)
I would agree and disagree - I have had clients with
good name (Quill)
rebuilts that wee real crap. I deal with a local rebuilder that will send
someone over in a 50 mile radius if they feel the cartridge is at fault to
clean and repair your printer free, replace the cartridge free if you are
out of area. I have purchased many of their rebuilds as I (unlike many
people can do) have been in their rebuild facility and seen what they do to
recondition the EP carts. I have also seen people in a garage drilling and
filling without ever changing )or even checking) drums, wipers, seals etc.
You basically have to try a rebuilder once and then decide if their product
is of any quality.
Even HP and Lexmark state on their virgin carts that they "may contain
recycled components" meaning drums and other components so they a re new
with some rebuilt parts.
-> -----Original Message-----
-> From: owner-classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
-> [mailto:owner-classiccmp@classiccmp.org]On Behalf Of
-> UberTechnoid(a)home.com
-> Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2001 7:50 PM
-> To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
-> Subject: Refilling Toner Carts (was RE: Rubber Restorer...)
->
->
-> Having been inside thousands of laser, led, and Inkjet printers in my
-> time, I'd have to agree with HP.
->
-> Third-party recycled toner carts can cause an ungodly mess a
-> tech is gonna
-> have to clean up. Inkjet refill kits can have the same effect (but
-> gooeyer).
->
-> For those on the list, you know what you are doing and know what you are
-> getting into, but PLEASE tell your customers/clients to buy
-> original toner
-> carts or carts from a known maker (such as Xerox tonor carts for hp
-> printers). Shopping for price is ok, but refilled carts from Joedy
-> Rottenkrotch are recipe for disaster.
->
-> Regards,
->
-> Jeff
->
-> In <l0310280eb80ce699bc5d(a)[192.168.1.4]>4]>, on 11/05/01
-> at 05:02 PM, Mike Ford <mikeford(a)socal.rr.com> said:
->
-> >>HP recommends a plain old water (a damp cloth) to clean
-> printer rollers. I
->
-> >>>Does anyone know where I can get "Rubber Restorer"? I know
-> it comes in a
-> >>>spray.
->
-> >I bought a bottle of Rubber Rejuvient at Frys, Platen Cleaner is another
-> >similar thing. Keep in mind HP is the same company that said Toner
-> >cartridges can't be refilled, so when the wet cloth doesn't
-> work, use the
-> >real stuff if you don't want to buy new parts or a printer.
->
->
->
-> --
-> -----------------------------------------------------------
-> Jeffrey S. Worley
-> Asheville, NC USA
-> 828-6984887
-> UberTechnoid(a)Home.com
-> -----------------------------------------------------------
->
->
7 Nov
7 Nov
7:40 a.m.
New subject: Refilling Toner Carts (was RE: Rubber Restorer...)
To take this a bit further off-topic, has anyone rejuvenated inkjet cartridges ?
I have an HP Inkjet 500 that I bought a Ko.Rec.Type refill kit for. I refilled the
cartridge some time ago and it has worked fine untill recently when after a
period of inactivity it stopped printing even tho the cartridge is still 1/2 full. I
can only imagine that a solid has plugged the output. Would it be possible to
empty the cartidge and flush it out with some sort of solvent ?
On a further note. What is the difference between toner material of various
brands and purposes ? e.g. are the toner materials used in my Mattel Copier
and the various laser cartridges in my numerous laser printers of different
grades and densities ? While for a business or home computer user it makes
sense to use approved cartridge replacements, the cost for collectors is
prohibitive. Especially when that printer may sit for over a year or more while
you use your favorite printer for everday purposes. As someone else on this
thread mentioned it's sometimes cheaper to just buy another of the same
make and model, IF you're able to find one. I refilled a cartridge from an Oki-
Data LED printer with toner from a scrap one and it works fine. You don't do
it in your kichen of course. It can be messy.
Lawrence
Having been inside thousands of laser, led, and Inkjet
printers in my
time, I'd have to agree with HP.
Third-party recycled toner carts can cause an ungodly mess a tech is gonna
have to clean up. Inkjet refill kits can have the same effect (but
gooeyer).
For those on the list, you know what you are doing and know what you are
getting into, but PLEASE tell your customers/clients to buy original toner
carts or carts from a known maker (such as Xerox tonor carts for hp
printers). Shopping for price is ok, but refilled carts from Joedy
Rottenkrotch are recipe for disaster.
Regards,
Jeff
In <l0310280eb80ce699bc5d(a)[192.168.1.4]>4]>, on 11/05/01
at 05:02 PM, Mike Ford <mikeford(a)socal.rr.com> said:
Reply to:
lgwalker(a)mts.net
>HP recommends a plain old water (a damp cloth)
to clean printer rollers. I
>>Does anyone know where I can get
"Rubber Restorer"? I know it comes in a
>>spray.
I bought a bottle of Rubber Rejuvient at Frys,
Platen Cleaner is another
similar thing. Keep in mind HP is the same company that said Toner
cartridges can't be refilled, so when the wet cloth doesn't work, use the
real stuff if you don't want to buy new parts or a printer.
--
-----------------------------------------------------------
Jeffrey S. Worley
Asheville, NC USA
828-6984887
UberTechnoid(a)Home.com
-----------------------------------------------------------
7:22 a.m.
New subject: Refilling Toner Carts (was RE: Rubber Restorer...)
Lawrence Walker wrote:
To take this a bit further off-topic, has anyone rejuvenated inkjet cartridges ?
I have an HP Inkjet 500 that I bought a Ko.Rec.Type refill kit for. I refilled the
cartridge some time ago and it has worked fine untill recently when after a
period of inactivity it stopped printing even tho the cartridge is still 1/2 full. I
can only imagine that a solid has plugged the output. Would it be possible to
empty the cartidge and flush it out with some sort of solvent ?
Have you tried cleaning the bottom of the cartridge? I read somewhere
that you don't let
the cartridge go 100% dry but fill up while there is still ink in the
head.
I tend to fill up a cartridge once and throw it way after the second
use.
Ben Franchuk.
Ps. At the risk of putting this back on topic, I used some rubber renew
on the rollers
so they would grab better ( and filed up the cartridge ) today for a
bunch of schematic
printing.
--
Standard Disclaimer : 97% speculation 2% bad grammar 1% facts.
"Pre-historic Cpu's" http://www.jetnet.ab.ca/users/bfranchuk
8:04 a.m.
New subject: Refilling Toner Carts (was RE: Rubber Restorer...)
To take this a bit further off-topic, has anyone
rejuvenated inkjet cartridges ?
I have an HP Inkjet 500 that I bought a Ko.Rec.Type refill kit for. I refilled the
cartridge some time ago and it has worked fine untill recently when after a
period of inactivity it stopped printing even tho the cartridge is still 1/2 full. I
can only imagine that a solid has plugged the output. Would it be possible to
empty the cartidge and flush it out with some sort of solvent ?
HP switched to using a fancy type of ink cartridge a while back, that actually
counts the number of drops that come out of a cartridge, and stop the
cartridge after the number of drops reaches about 1.5 the volume that
should be in the cartridge. Of course, they had some other explanation
for it, but everyone knew it was to prevent refills. I dont know if
your cartridge is one of those types, but it sure sounds like it.
-Lawrence LeMay
8:08 a.m.
New subject: Refilling Toner Carts (was RE: Rubber Restorer...)
Lawrence Walker wrote:
To take this a bit further off-topic, has anyone rejuvenated inkjet cartridges ?
I have an HP Inkjet 500 that I bought a Ko.Rec.Type refill kit for. I refilled the
cartridge some time ago and it has worked fine untill recently when after a
period of inactivity it stopped printing even tho the cartridge is still 1/2 full. I
can only imagine that a solid has plugged the output. Would it be possible to
empty the cartidge and flush it out with some sort of solvent ?
I've heard that a drop of 409 cleaner on the print head will disolve the
dried ink enough that it will again be workable. I haven't tried it but
I do trust the person who did try it and told me about it. I think he
said the sitting time ranged between a few minutes and perhaps 20
minutes. And this also worked on a cartridge that had been plugged for a
few months and just sitting around. YMMV
4:10 p.m.
New subject: Refilling Toner Carts (was RE: Rubber Restorer...)
To take this a bit further off-topic, has anyone
rejuvenated inkjet
cartridges ?
I have an HP Inkjet 500 that I bought a Ko.Rec.Type refill kit for. I
refilled the
cartridge some time ago and it has worked fine untill recently when after a
period of inactivity it stopped printing even tho the cartridge is still
1/2 full. I
can only imagine that a solid has plugged the output. Would it be possible to
empty the cartidge and flush it out with some sort of solvent ?
Rinse with warm water, then set the cartridge on a wet paper towel with the
ink jet down. Wait 1/2 hour or more, rinse, dry and put back in printer and
run the cleaning cycle.
Not printing at all makes me think bad connection, but??? what do I know.
I am told commercially they clean the carts in ultrasonic cleaners. One of
my refill kits has a bottle of cleaner they say to use every so many
refills. (squirt a bit in the almost empty cart, run cleaning cycle until
MT).
If you really don't feel like refilling, look around MANY nice offers exist
for refilling your carts. Staples clearanced some prepaid refill mailers,
and I bought a couple of those, and some online place has an offer to send
out one refilled cart for each two you send in as a "introductory" special.
Advice I learned the hard way, NEVER pick up unknown toner or ink jet
cartridges that have been setting in the sun.
5:37 p.m.
New subject: Refilling Toner Carts (was RE: Rubber Restorer...)
Mike Ford wrote:
<snip>
Advice I learned the hard way, NEVER pick up unknown
toner or ink jet
cartridges that have been setting in the sun.
Watch out for expired HP carts, I picked up 3 unopened color
carts from goodwill a few years ago, 2 years after the
expiration date I had the opportunity to try them out. The color
carts all printed in a un-uniform shade of brown/grey.
Even at 3$ a unit, it was still an ouch.
Jim Davis.
7:25 p.m.
New subject: Refilling Toner Carts (was RE: Rubber Restorer...)
Advice I
learned the hard way, NEVER pick up unknown toner or ink jet
cartridges that have been setting in the sun.
Watch out for expired HP carts, I picked up 3 unopened color
carts from goodwill a few years ago, 2 years after the
expiration date I had the opportunity to try them out. The color
carts all printed in a un-uniform shade of brown/grey.
Even at 3$ a unit, it was still an ouch.
8 Nov
8 Nov
9:59 a.m.
New subject: Refilling Toner Carts (was RE: Rubber Restorer...)
I'm not certain, but reasonably sure inkjet carts are unlikely to freeze.
I think one of the main ingredients is Ethelene Glycol which is used as
antifreeze in automobile radiators.
I recall the Cannon 300? series used alcohol-based ink. It has plastic
lines running from the resivoir to the head. What a rig. I've seen
several of these printers and they all had clogging problems and a
non-replaceable head (for all practical purposes).
Regards,
Jeff
In <l0310280ab80ffec53c2c(a)[192.168.1.4]>4]>, on 11/08/01
at 01:25 AM, Mike Ford <mikeford(a)socal.rr.com> said:
>> Advice I learned the hard way, NEVER pick up
unknown toner or ink jet
>> cartridges that have been setting in the sun.
>
>Watch out for expired HP carts, I picked up 3 unopened color
>carts from goodwill a few years ago, 2 years after the
>expiration date I had the opportunity to try them out. The color
>carts all printed in a un-uniform shade of brown/grey.
>Even at 3$ a unit, it was still an ouch.
Not really as bad as a leaking cartridge that you
don't notice until its
dripping off your elbow. Only took 2 weeks to wear off.
Something must have happened to those cartridges,
because I know I have
used some that were older than that without a hitch, plus a guy I know at
the swapmeets sells about 100+ date expired units per week, and nobody
seems to be complaining. Maybe they got too hot, or froze or something?
Normal shelf life is what, 3 to 5 years?
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Jeffrey S. Worley
Asheville, NC USA
828-6984887
UberTechnoid(a)Home.com
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