4 Jan
2002
4 Jan
'02
5:39 p.m.
Hi, again.
I just tripped on my Jensen box looking for the dial calipers, and
that reminded me. I have a DEC 2000/150axp, working, and a copy of
Digital Unix v4.0, licensed, that I want to run on it. The problem is
the EISA SCSI firmware. The OS wants firmware version G2, my AHA1742
has version G1. I tried the firmware images from Adaptec, but the DEC
installer hurls on that too. Does anyone know where I might find DEC
firmware upgrades for the SCSI adapter? Burning the EEPROMs isn't a
problem.
This box is only 9-and-a-half years old, so you'll all please excuse
me. ;)
Doc
4 Jan
4 Jan
6:14 p.m.
On Fri, 4 Jan 2002, Doc Shipley wrote:
I just tripped on my Jensen box looking for the dial
calipers, and
that reminded me. I have a DEC 2000/150axp, working, and a copy of
Digital Unix v4.0, licensed, that I want to run on it. The problem is
the EISA SCSI firmware. The OS wants firmware version G2, my AHA1742
has version G1. I tried the firmware images from Adaptec, but the DEC
installer hurls on that too. Does anyone know where I might find DEC
firmware upgrades for the SCSI adapter? Burning the EEPROMs isn't a
problem.
I have a large pile of 1740/42 cards, including a few brand new ones. I
could dump the EPROMS if they would help any. I imagine they are mostly
still using the factory versions of their bios and microcode, but I never
have tested any of them.
-Toth
8:01 p.m.
On Fri, 4 Jan 2002, Tothwolf wrote:
I have a large pile of 1740/42 cards, including a few
brand new ones. I
could dump the EPROMS if they would help any. I imagine they are mostly
still using the factory versions of their bios and microcode, but I never
have tested any of them.
That would be quite nice of you. The EPROMS on mine are dated 1992,
and I don't know if this is the part number or the revision code:
450228-00 A
This is turning into a Fun Friday after all. Want a PowerBook?
Doc
8:28 p.m.
On Sat, 5 Jan 2002, Doc wrote:
On Fri, 4 Jan 2002, Tothwolf wrote:
I have a brand new still shrink wrapped 1740 and software here on my desk.
It's not a 174xB, but rather a 1740A. I think the package was supposed to
have a manual, but it seems to be missing. Its BIOS chip is labeled
"450216-00 A", checksum is DC00. The microcode chip is labeled
"450113-00 E", checksum is B7D6. Both have a copyright date of 1992. I'll
look for the box of boards and see what other revisions I have. I don't
think the 'A' and 'B' boards use the same BIOS and microcode.
I may have some other models of Adaptec EISA SCSI boards in the same box,
I'll have to look. I tend to collect odd boards for PC stuff to test Linux
and BSD drivers.
I have a large pile of 1740/42 cards, including a
few brand new ones. I
could dump the EPROMS if they would help any. I imagine they are mostly
still using the factory versions of their bios and microcode, but I never
have tested any of them.
That would be quite nice of you. The EPROMS on mine are dated 1992,
and I don't know if this is the part number or the revision code:
450228-00 A This is turning into a Fun Friday after all. Want a
PowerBook?
You don't want it anymore?
-Toth
9:05 p.m.
On Sat, 5 Jan 2002, Tothwolf wrote:
I didn't want it when I got it. It was part of a package deal, and I
already have more Apple stuff than I ever intended to have. I find
MacOS not only extremely irritating, but strangely unavoidable.
Doc
I have a brand new still shrink wrapped 1740 and
software here on my desk.
It's not a 174xB, but rather a 1740A. I think the package was supposed to
have a manual, but it seems to be missing. Its BIOS chip is labeled
"450216-00 A", checksum is DC00. The microcode chip is labeled
"450113-00 E", checksum is B7D6. Both have a copyright date of 1992. I'll
look for the box of boards and see what other revisions I have. I don't
think the 'A' and 'B' boards use the same BIOS and microcode.
I may have some other models of Adaptec EISA SCSI boards in the same box,
I'll have to look. I tend to collect odd boards for PC stuff to test Linux
and BSD drivers.
I forgot to mention that AFAICT, DEC uses custom microcode with these,
because when I tried to use the version "I" microcode off Adaptec's
site, even OpenVMS 7.2 wouldn't install anymore. My experience with
Digital Unix and OpenVMS 7.2 on an Aspen Alpine and a 164LX tend to
support that idea. What I'd really like to find is Compaq's archive
stash. If any of that still exists.
This is
turning into a Fun Friday after all. Want a PowerBook?
You don't want it anymore?
9:37 p.m.
On Sat, 5 Jan 2002, Doc wrote:
I forgot to mention that AFAICT, DEC uses custom
microcode with these,
because when I tried to use the version "I" microcode off Adaptec's
site, even OpenVMS 7.2 wouldn't install anymore. My experience with
Digital Unix and OpenVMS 7.2 on an Aspen Alpine and a 164LX tend to
support that idea. What I'd really like to find is Compaq's archive
stash. If any of that still exists.
I don't know if the boards I have were used in DEC or PC machines. I
bought them as I found them, as is. Never have tested them. I know a few
are even missing their EPROM chips.
I didn't want it when I got it. It was part of a
package deal, and I
already have more Apple stuff than I ever intended to have. I find
MacOS not only extremely irritating, but strangely unavoidable.
Ah, that explains it...I don't really mind MacOS, but I don't think I'd
want to use it on a daily basis. I don't think I could ever give up my
Linux systems now.
-Toth
6 Jan
6 Jan
2:47 p.m.
On Sat, 5 Jan 2002, Doc wrote:
On Sat, 5 Jan 2002, Tothwolf wrote:
Well, I found my box of boards, and it had 2 more AHA-1742A and 7
AHA-1740A boards. I haven't yet found a 1740B or 1742B in any of my boxes,
but I'll keep a look out and let you know if one turns up, that is, if you
still need the bios and microcode images.
I also found a pair of AHA-2742AT EISA SCSI controllers. Anyone familiar
with these?
-Toth
I may have some other models of Adaptec EISA SCSI
boards in the same box,
I'll have to look. I tend to collect odd boards for PC stuff to test Linux
and BSD drivers.
I forgot to mention that AFAICT, DEC uses custom microcode with these,
because when I tried to use the version "I" microcode off Adaptec's
site, even OpenVMS 7.2 wouldn't install anymore. My experience with
Digital Unix and OpenVMS 7.2 on an Aspen Alpine and a 164LX tend to
support that idea. What I'd really like to find is Compaq's archive
stash. If any of that still exists. 
10:26 p.m.
On 2002.01.07 02:47 Tothwolf wrote:
I also found a pair of AHA-2742AT EISA SCSI
controllers. Anyone
familiar with these?
I have two of this adapters in my dual P120 EISA/PCI machine.
They are
dual channel FastSCSI 2 adapters and work well with *BSD and Linux.
--
tsch??,
Jochen
Homepage: http://www.unixag-kl.fh-kl.de/~jkunz/
10:44 p.m.
On Mon, 7 Jan 2002, Jochen Kunz wrote:
On 2002.01.07 02:47 Tothwolf wrote:
Thanks for the specs. Sounds like something I might want to use later. I
think I still have some EISA 486 boards around somewhere. Gotta keep a
look out for an EISA pentium board too I guess. Not quite classics yet,
but EISA stuff does have an unusual history...
-Toth
I also found a pair of AHA-2742AT EISA SCSI
controllers. Anyone
familiar with these?
I have two of this adapters in my dual P120 EISA/PCI machine. They are
dual channel FastSCSI 2 adapters and work well with *BSD and Linux.
7 Jan
7 Jan
12:22 a.m.
On Mon, Jan 07, 2002 at 03:44:34AM -0600, Tothwolf wrote:
Thanks for the specs. Sounds like something I might
want to use later. I
think I still have some EISA 486 boards around somewhere. Gotta keep a
look out for an EISA pentium board too I guess.
I intended to use the machine as
dedicated NFS Server with software
RAID (FreeBSD/vinum). But the main board does not work reliable. It
gets memory errors. I swaped all SIMMs and even the cache chips, but
the porblem persists. PeeCee crap...
I am now looking for an EISA Alpha to reuse the two Adaptecs and the
2MB ATI Mach64 EISA card with NetBSD...
Not quite classics yet,
but EISA stuff does have an unusual history...
I think we get the "unusual
stuff dispense". ;-)
--
tsch??,
Jochen
Homepage: http://www.unixag-kl.fh-kl.de/~jkunz/
12:36 a.m.
On Mon, 7 Jan 2002, Jochen Kunz wrote:
On Mon, Jan 07, 2002 at 03:44:34AM -0600, Tothwolf
wrote:
Been there, done that. Seems to be a large number of the "cheap junk"
boards give everything else a bad reputation. Only thing worse than memory
or other visible errors are the random hard lockups or resets.
-Toth
Thanks for the specs. Sounds like something I
might want to use later. I
think I still have some EISA 486 boards around somewhere. Gotta keep a
look out for an EISA pentium board too I guess.
I intended to use the machine as dedicated NFS Server with software
RAID (FreeBSD/vinum). But the main board does not work reliable. It
gets memory errors. I swaped all SIMMs and even the cache chips, but
the porblem persists. PeeCee crap... 
1:55 a.m.
New subject: OT: Time-Canada posts Apple early
At around midnight last night, Time-Canada posted a story,
dated Jan. 14, on their website giving a look at the new Apple
product line, a day before the products were to be announced! A few
hours later the story was pulled, but not before people caught sight
of it, and in one case, made a PDF of it.
Jeff
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9 Jan
9 Jan
2:44 a.m.
New subject: OT: Time-Canada posts Apple early
Darn...have to hate when something finally shows up 2-3 days
after I sent it to the list...
At around midnight last night, Time-Canada posted a
story,
dated Jan. 14, on their website giving a look at the new Apple
product line, a day before the products were to be announced! A few
hours later the story was pulled, but not before people caught sight
of it, and in one case, made a PDF of it.
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3:52 a.m.
New subject: OT: Time-Canada posts Apple early
At around midnight last night, Time-Canada posted a
story,
dated Jan. 14, on their website giving a look at the new Apple
product line, a day before the products were to be announced! A few
hours later the story was pulled, but not before people caught sight
of it, and in one case, made a PDF of it.
Apparently, Job was thoroughly ticked off.
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5 Jan
5 Jan
5:07 a.m.
I may have some other models of Adaptec EISA SCSI
boards in the same box,
I'll have to look. I tend to collect odd boards for PC stuff to test Linux
and BSD drivers.
I've got a few Adaptec EISA boards as well, though I don't
recall their model number at the moment.
Jeff
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