30 Sep
2019
30 Sep
'19
11:50 a.m.
Thought someone here might find this interesting; I have a binder of
materials describing the entire course (descriptions of the PDP-11/45
DELPHI system, readings, coursework, quizzes, exams (with answers)) for MIT
6.031 "Structure and Interpretation of Computer Languages", 1974.
http://yahozna.dyndns.org/scratch/scans/mit/MIT%206.031%20Structure%20And%2…
It starts with PDP-11 assembly language, moves on to Algol and LISP and is
over a thousand pages of material. Get studying!
- Josh
30 Sep
30 Sep
1:39 p.m.
On 9/30/2019 12:50 PM, Josh Dersch via cctalk wrote:
Thought someone here might find this interesting; I
have a binder of
materials describing the entire course (descriptions of the PDP-11/45
DELPHI system, readings, coursework, quizzes, exams (with answers)) for MIT
6.031 "Structure and Interpretation of Computer Languages", 1974.
http://yahozna.dyndns.org/scratch/scans/mit/MIT%206.031%20Structure%20And%2…
It starts with PDP-11 assembly language, moves on to Algol and LISP and is
over a thousand pages of material. Get studying!
- Josh
A quick look, nothing is said about Algol, did you mean Assembler?
what I see is interesting is that LISP is on a 11. I allways thought
LISP only ran on BIGGER machines.
Ben.
1:43 p.m.
On Mon, Sep 30, 2019 at 1:39 PM ben via cctalk <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
wrote:
On 9/30/2019 12:50 PM, Josh Dersch via cctalk wrote:
See Chapter 3, pg. 249 in the PDF.
- Josh
Thought someone here might find this interesting;
I have a binder of
materials describing the entire course (descriptions of the PDP-11/45
DELPHI system, readings, coursework, quizzes, exams (with answers)) for
MIT
6.031 "Structure and Interpretation of
Computer Languages", 1974.
http://yahozna.dyndns.org/scratch/scans/mit/MIT%206.031%20Structure%20And%2…
It starts with PDP-11 assembly language, moves on to Algol and LISP and
is
over a thousand pages of material. Get
studying!
- Josh
A quick look, nothing is said about Algol, did you mean Assembler?
what I see is interesting is that LISP is on a 11. I allways thought
LISP only ran on BIGGER machines.
Ben.
5:25 p.m.
On 9/30/2019 2:43 PM, Josh Dersch via cctalk wrote:
See Chapter 3, pg. 249 in the PDF.
- Josh
I only read THE TABLE OF CONTENTS...
I was not expecting a bunch of files all in one big PDF.
I view all my PDFs on my tablet, the screen size fits better
than the WIDE SCREEN CinemaScope* format of todays PC's.
I'll download it and view it later.
Ben.
*Well heading in that direction,
4:51 p.m.
On Sep 30, 2019, at 4:39 PM, ben via cctalk <cctalk
at classiccmp.org> wrote:
A quick look, nothing is said about Algol, did you mean Assembler?
what I see is interesting is that LISP is on a 11. I allways thought
LISP only ran on BIGGER machines.
Ben.
From what I heard fairly recently, some early LISP
implementations were on quite small machines. One was the PDP-8 (see
http://www.softwarepreservation.org/projects/LISP/other/) and that same page also mentions
LISP for the ZEBRA -- a Dutch machine, with 33 bit words.
I think another was the Electrologica X1, another Dutch machine, like the ZEBRA from 1958,
with 27 bit words and a base configuration of 4k words of core memory. I may be off; if
it wasn't the X1, it would be the X8, from 1968, also 27 bits but more likely to be
seen with 32 k or so of memory.
A lot of things can be done in small amounts of memory if you work at it, though
admittedly most who have that skill probably also have white hair. :-) For example, the
world's first ALGOL compiler -- a full language compiler, not a subset -- ran on an
EL-X1 with 4k words of memory. And it was built by 2 people, in 6 months. Now admittedly
one of those two was E.W.Dijkstra...
paul
1 Oct
1 Oct
12:38 a.m.
On Mon, 30 Sep 2019, ben wrote:
A quick look, nothing is said about Algol, did you
mean Assembler?
what I see is interesting is that LISP is on a 11. I allways thought
LISP only ran on BIGGER machines.
I have the source and binary for KLISP-11 V2 on papertape; available on
our FTP server.
Christian
3:28 p.m.
On 10/1/2019 1:38 AM, Christian Corti via cctalk wrote:
On Mon, 30 Sep 2019, ben wrote:
Strange Paper tape lasts forver,Digial media is lost after the latest
server crash. Thank god for the the bitsaver's people and Internet Archive
Ben.
A quick look,? nothing is said about Algol, did
you mean Assembler?
what I see is interesting is that LISP is on a 11. I allways thought
LISP only ran on BIGGER machines.
I have the source and binary for KLISP-11 V2 on papertape; available on
our FTP server.
Christian
5:22 p.m.
On Oct 1, 2019, at 8:15 PM, Toby Thain via cctalk
<cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote:
On 2019-10-01 6:28 p.m., ben via cctalk wrote:
I remember Mylar punched tape. That stuff is amazingly strong and waterproof. I've
seen it for paper tapes that were intended to be read thousands of times -- OS boot tapes
for example, or the correction data tape for an instrument in my father's lab.
DECtape is pretty waterproof; there have been reports of reels accidentally being run
through the laundry and coming out perfectly readable afterwards.
paul
Strange Paper tape lasts forver,Digial media is
lost after the latest
server crash
Both better have backups. Paper tape doesn't do well in fires and floods. 
6:28 p.m.
On 10/1/19 5:22 PM, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote:
1/2" Magnetic tape is quite resilient, even when stored improperly (e.g.
full of mold).
--Chuck
Both better
have backups. Paper tape doesn't do well in fires and floods.
I remember Mylar punched tape. That stuff is amazingly strong and waterproof. I've
seen it for paper tapes that were intended to be read thousands of times -- OS boot tapes
for example, or the correction data tape for an instrument in my father's lab.
DECtape is pretty waterproof; there have been reports of reels accidentally being run
through the laundry and coming out perfectly readable afterwards.
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