From: "Merle K. Peirce" &lt;at258(a)osfn.org&gt; <<My impression is that there probably are not all that many, and that the first machines to exclude from such a list are the iMac grotesques. I would offer just a very few for initial consideration: Epson QX-10 Apricot Honeywell DPS-6 Olivetti ETV-300 IBM PS/2 towers>> These machines were all attractive computers and I like your idea about discussing boxes just on good looks, but what's with this "grotesque" stuff in reference to the iMac? I happen to think they look rather nice. Have you ever seen a Lear Siegler ADM 5 terminal? I have one and it's cool. The iMac looks a lot like it in terms of curves. Just because you don't particularly like something doesn't mean it has to be "grotesque" or "gross" or some other childish adjective. Best, David Greelish Classic Computing Press www.classiccomputing.com