9 Oct
2005
9 Oct
'05
9:25 a.m.
A simpler way to beat the only one floppy problem. Find a PCI floppy/IDE card
and disable the onboard controller. Simple fix.
I used that fix at work to solve a problem mother board that lost all floppy
control due to lightining/power transient. Since everything else worked and
I needed to get to other problem systems that was a good fix.
Allison
9 Oct
9 Oct
11 a.m.
On Sun, 09 Oct 2005 09:25:29 -0400
Allison <ajp166 at bellatlantic.net> wrote:
A simpler way to beat the only one floppy problem. Find a PCI
floppy/IDE card and disable the onboard controller. Simple fix.
I used that fix at work to solve a problem mother board that lost all
floppy control due to lightining/power transient. Since everything
else worked and I needed to get to other problem systems that was a
good fix.
Allison
An even better 'fix' would be to disable just the floppy interface on
the motherboard and use an ISA SCSI interface (i.e. a 1542) of the
generation when there were versions with a floppy interface onboard
(from systems that had NO 'AT Hard Disk Controler' hardware in them at
all back in the era when '286 motherboards didn't have onboard disk
I/O.) In fact, I have at least one such a card here and should give
that a try. (added benefit would be having SCSI I/O in the system)
11:14 a.m.
On Sunday 09 October 2005 10:00, Scott Stevens wrote:
On Sun, 09 Oct 2005 09:25:29 -0400
Allison <ajp166 at bellatlantic.net> wrote:
This doesn't work well when you have a recent enough machine that it
doesn't have ISA slots. Heck, I've got UNIX boxes from 1996 (getting
nearly on topic now) that have PCI but no ISA slots.
Though, I'll have to say that I've never seen a PCI card with a floppy
controller on it (well, um, other than the Catweasel, of course).
Pat
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A simpler way to beat the only one floppy
problem. Find a PCI
floppy/IDE card and disable the onboard controller. Simple fix.
I used that fix at work to solve a problem mother board that lost
all floppy control due to lightining/power transient. Since
everything else worked and I needed to get to other problem systems
that was a good fix.
Allison
An even better 'fix' would be to disable just the floppy interface on
the motherboard and use an ISA SCSI interface (i.e. a 1542) of the
generation when there were versions with a floppy interface onboard
noon
On Sun, 9 Oct 2005 10:14:31 -0500
Patrick Finnegan <pat at computer-refuge.org> wrote:
On Sunday 09 October 2005 10:00, Scott Stevens wrote:
Well, PCI was and is perceived as a 'good thing' and was never
PC-specific. It's no surprise that UNIX vendors adopted PCI but never
touched ISA. (didn't SGI have ISA, or maybe EISA slots, in some of
their workstations?)
I don't have any machines 'recent' enough that they don't have ISA
slots, for the record. And, in fact, the particular Dell Optiplexes
that I continue to drone on about have a LOT of ISA slots if the
motherboard is installed in the mini-tower case. More, even, than we
had available on a stock PC-AT once you tied up a bunch of the slots
with disk controller, video, network card, etc.
On Sun, 09 Oct 2005 09:25:29 -0400
Allison <ajp166 at bellatlantic.net> wrote:
This doesn't work well when you have a recent enough machine that it
doesn't have ISA slots. Heck, I've got UNIX boxes from 1996 (getting
nearly on topic now) that have PCI but no ISA slots.
A simpler way to beat the only one floppy
problem. Find a PCI
floppy/IDE card and disable the onboard controller. Simple fix.
I used that fix at work to solve a problem mother board that lost
all floppy control due to lightining/power transient. Since
everything else worked and I needed to get to other problem
systems that was a good fix.
Allison
An even better 'fix' would be to disable just the floppy interface
on the motherboard and use an ISA SCSI interface (i.e. a 1542) of
the generation when there were versions with a floppy interface
onboard 
11 Oct
11 Oct
5:23 p.m.
It's no surprise that UNIX vendors adopted PCI but
never touched ISA.
Didn't the Sun 386i (the "Road Runner") use ISA? Mine certainly uses
something similar enough to fool me. (I just checked. Which at least
means I've got it out, now; I need to get it packed up and shipped off
to the person I promised it to. Yeah, in my Copious Spare Time....)
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8:55 p.m.
Just to complicate things more. I haven't taken one apart, but I was
thinking some of the older laptop floppy drives might not be so
integrated. You can get a pci-->pcmcia card for around ?15 here. Would
a pcmcia flopply drive fit the bill ?
Dan
12 Oct
12 Oct
12:30 a.m.
On 10/12/2005 at 1:55 AM Dan Williams wrote:
Just to complicate things more. I haven't taken one
apart, but I was
thinking some of the older laptop floppy drives might not be so
integrated. You can get a pci-->pcmcia card for around ?15 here. Would
a pcmcia flopply drive fit the bill ?
Dan, I don't think I've ever seen a 5.25" PCMCIA drive. Do they exist?
There's actually not a huge amount of difference between the PCMCIA bus and ISA.
IIRC, you can get PCMCIA-PC104 adapters and PC104 is very close to ISA.
Cheers,
Chuck
4:17 a.m.
Dan, I don't think I've ever seen a 5.25"
PCMCIA drive. Do they exist? There's actually not a huge amount of difference
between the PCMCIA bus and ISA. IIRC, you can get PCMCIA-PC104 adapters and PC104 is very
close to ISA.
Cheers,
Chuck
These guys made one ten years ago, there might be some around.
http://www.accurite.com/PR-PC.html
Dan
7:33 a.m.
Damn, it's definitely a ClassicCmp thing. 10yr rule and certainly unique. =)
If someone's got one out there, that would seem to be a great
solution, right on Dan.
-John Boffemmyer IV
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Dan, I
don't think I've ever seen a 5.25" PCMCIA drive. Do they
exist?
There's actually not a huge amount of difference between
the PCMCIA bus and ISA. IIRC, you can get PCMCIA-PC104 adapters
and PC104 is very close to ISA.
Cheers,
Chuck
These guys made one ten years ago, there might be some around.
http://www.accurite.com/PR-PC.html
Dan
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