7 Apr
2014
7 Apr
'14
6:06 p.m.
I'm trying to remember how to get a OpenVMS/VAX Hobbyist license. I have
the media. I have an account number for Encompass US, I just don't remember
where to get the license.
8 Apr
8 Apr
1:17 a.m.
On 4/7/2014 9:06 PM, David Coolbear wrote:
I'm trying to remember how to get a OpenVMS/VAX
Hobbyist license. I have
the media. I have an account number for Encompass US, I just don't remember
where to get the license.
Apply at:
http://plato.ccsscorp.com/hobbyist_registration.php3
or
http://www.openvms.org/hobbyist
John H. Reinhardt
1 Aug
1 Aug
9:15 a.m.
On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 2:17 AM, John H. Reinhardt
<johnhreinhardt at yahoo.com> wrote:
On 4/7/2014 9:06 PM, David Coolbear wrote:
So what does a Connect/Encompass "Explorer Member" enter in the
required "Membership Number" field of the form? If I have any sort of
membership number, that's news to me.
I'm trying to remember how to get a
OpenVMS/VAX Hobbyist license. I have
the media. I have an account number for Encompass US, I just don't
remember
where to get the license.
Apply at:
http://plato.ccsscorp.com/hobbyist_registration.php3
or
http://www.openvms.org/hobbyist 
10:49 a.m.
I don't think they'll issue hobbyist licenses to Explorer Members. You have
to pay $50 now AFAIK. (please correct me if this is not the case?)
Years ago (well, back in 2009, IIRC) I was able to talk them into doing it
for free (or maybe I just confused them & they mistakenly did it for me),
but this time around when I brought my VAXen out of storage to play with, I
just paid up. Honestly I'm happy to pay $50/year to be able to run VMS on
all my VAX machines.
When you sign up as an ordinary Encompass member, you'll get an actual
member ID number, which is what you plug into the form.
Also, I found that apparently within the last few months, the duty of
handling the hobbyist license has kind of bounced around within HP or
something, such that there was a little bit of delay in processing my
request. I found that for best results, you want to use the form at -
http://plato.ccsscorp.com/hobbyist_registration.php3
Don't use the form www.openvmshobbyist.com site, I think it's broken or
something; I never got a response from anyone when I used it.
Best,
Sean
On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 12:15 PM, Eric Smith <spacewar at gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 2:17 AM, John H. Reinhardt
<johnhreinhardt at yahoo.com> wrote:
On 4/7/2014 9:06 PM, David Coolbear wrote:
So what does a Connect/Encompass "Explorer Member" enter in the
required "Membership Number" field of the form? If I have any sort of
membership number, that's news to me.
I'm trying to remember how to get a
OpenVMS/VAX Hobbyist license. I have
the media. I have an account number for Encompass US, I just don't
remember
where to get the license.
Apply at:
http://plato.ccsscorp.com/hobbyist_registration.php3
or
http://www.openvms.org/hobbyist 
12:11 p.m.
Many moons ago (like, 2-3 years), I managed to get a Hobbyist license for
free, by signing up with Encompass/DECUS. It didn't cost anything at the
time, and allowed you to get a Hobbyist license (which was my sole purpose
for signing up). I'm trying to find all of my documentation (without
success), but I do recall it didn't cost anything.
On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 10:49 AM, Sean Caron <scaron at umich.edu> wrote:
I don't think they'll issue hobbyist licenses
to Explorer Members. You have
to pay $50 now AFAIK. (please correct me if this is not the case?)
Years ago (well, back in 2009, IIRC) I was able to talk them into doing it
for free (or maybe I just confused them & they mistakenly did it for me),
but this time around when I brought my VAXen out of storage to play with, I
just paid up. Honestly I'm happy to pay $50/year to be able to run VMS on
all my VAX machines.
When you sign up as an ordinary Encompass member, you'll get an actual
member ID number, which is what you plug into the form.
Also, I found that apparently within the last few months, the duty of
handling the hobbyist license has kind of bounced around within HP or
something, such that there was a little bit of delay in processing my
request. I found that for best results, you want to use the form at -
http://plato.ccsscorp.com/hobbyist_registration.php3
Don't use the form www.openvmshobbyist.com site, I think it's broken or
something; I never got a response from anyone when I used it.
Best,
Sean
On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 12:15 PM, Eric Smith <spacewar at gmail.com> wrote:
So what does a Connect/Encompass "Explorer Member" enter in the
required "Membership Number" field of the form? If I have any sort of
membership number, that's news to me.
On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 2:17 AM, John H.
Reinhardt
<johnhreinhardt at yahoo.com> wrote:
> On 4/7/2014 9:06 PM, David Coolbear wrote:
>> I'm trying to remember how to get a OpenVMS/VAX Hobbyist license. I
have
the media. I have an account number for Encompass US,
I just don't
remember
where to get the license.
Apply at:
http://plato.ccsscorp.com/hobbyist_registration.php3
or
http://www.openvms.org/hobbyist
1:16 p.m.
Ah, found it. I had signed up through DECUServe (http://decuserve.org/),
which appears to still be functioning and still free (though accepting
donations).
Jon
On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 12:11 PM, Jon Tabor <jonsmg at gmail.com> wrote:
Many moons ago (like, 2-3 years), I managed to get a
Hobbyist license for
free, by signing up with Encompass/DECUS. It didn't cost anything at the
time, and allowed you to get a Hobbyist license (which was my sole purpose
for signing up). I'm trying to find all of my documentation (without
success), but I do recall it didn't cost anything.
On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 10:49 AM, Sean Caron <scaron at umich.edu> wrote:
I don't think they'll issue hobbyist
licenses to Explorer Members. You
have
to pay $50 now AFAIK. (please correct me if this is not the case?)
Years ago (well, back in 2009, IIRC) I was able to talk them into doing it
for free (or maybe I just confused them & they mistakenly did it for me),
but this time around when I brought my VAXen out of storage to play with,
I
just paid up. Honestly I'm happy to pay $50/year to be able to run VMS on
all my VAX machines.
When you sign up as an ordinary Encompass member, you'll get an actual
member ID number, which is what you plug into the form.
Also, I found that apparently within the last few months, the duty of
handling the hobbyist license has kind of bounced around within HP or
something, such that there was a little bit of delay in processing my
request. I found that for best results, you want to use the form at -
http://plato.ccsscorp.com/hobbyist_registration.php3
Don't use the form www.openvmshobbyist.com site, I think it's broken or
something; I never got a response from anyone when I used it.
Best,
Sean
On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 12:15 PM, Eric Smith <spacewar at gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 2:17 AM, John H.
Reinhardt
<johnhreinhardt at yahoo.com> wrote:
> On 4/7/2014 9:06 PM, David Coolbear wrote:
>> I'm trying to remember how to get a OpenVMS/VAX Hobbyist license. I
have
> the
media. I have an account number for Encompass US, I just don't
> remember
> where to get the license.
Apply at:
http://plato.ccsscorp.com/hobbyist_registration.php3
or
http://www.openvms.org/hobbyist
So what does a Connect/Encompass "Explorer Member" enter in the
required "Membership Number" field of the form? If I have any sort of
membership number, that's news to me.
1:40 p.m.
On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 2:16 PM, Jon Tabor <jonsmg at gmail.com> wrote:
Ah, found it. I had signed up through DECUServe
(http://decuserve.org/),
which appears to still be functioning and still free (though accepting
donations).
Thanks, I'll try that.
I'm far more likely to give a donation to DECUServe than to pay a
subscription fee to Connect/Encompass.
2:39 p.m.
On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 2:40 PM, Eric Smith <spacewar at gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 2:16 PM, Jon Tabor <jonsmg
at gmail.com> wrote:
It took less than ten minutes from when I submitted the hobbyist program
signup form with DECUServe member number to when HP sent me the
license PAKs. Total time from starting the DECUServe signup process
was less than twenty minutes.
Ah, found it. I had signed up through DECUServe
(http://decuserve.org/),
which appears to still be functioning and still free (though accepting
donations).
Thanks, I'll try that. 
2:46 p.m.
Hi,
On Fri, Aug 01, 2014 at 02:40:17PM -0600, Eric Smith wrote:
On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 2:16 PM, Jon Tabor <jonsmg
at gmail.com> wrote:
This worked for me within the past several months.
http://decuserve.org/ instructs to telnet to encompasserve.org
and follow the instructions there, which was easy and free.
Mark
--
Mark G. Thomas (Mark at Misty.com)
Ah, found it. I had signed up through DECUServe
(http://decuserve.org/),
which appears to still be functioning and still free (though accepting
donations).
Thanks, I'll try that.
I'm far more likely to give a donation to DECUServe than to pay a
subscription fee to Connect/Encompass. 
2 Aug
2 Aug
6:07 a.m.
What I wonder is whether the hobbyist license program will continue
now that development has been transferred to a third party. Also, if
the announced x86-64 port happens, will any future hobbyist license
cover it?
Mike
11:32 p.m.
What I wonder is whether the hobbyist license program
will continue
now that development has been transferred to a third party. Also, if
the announced x86-64 port happens, will any future hobbyist license
cover it?
I sat in on the conference call announcing the changes (it was 4am locally but I have a
professional interest both in my current role and as a former HP OpenVMS person).
IIRC the hobbyist program was mentioned (as well as the CSLG) and they are both
continuing.
Huw Davies | e-mail: Huw.Davies at kerberos.davies.net.au
Melbourne | "If soccer was meant to be played in the
Australia | air, the sky would be painted green"
1:37 p.m.
On Aug 1, 2014, at 1:49 PM, Sean Caron <scaron at umich.edu> wrote:
I don't think they'll issue hobbyist licenses
to Explorer Members. You have
to pay $50 now AFAIK. (please correct me if this is not the case?)
Curious. I signed up with DECUServe primarily because Encompass seemed
to be moribund when I did the signup (couldn't even connect to the HTTP
server). As far as I know, it's still free, and their VAX Notes list on
EISNER is a nice resource (albeit one I only poll every few months).
- Dave
1:55 p.m.
There you go, that might be the "in" that I wasn't aware of? The process
isn't always very well documented, which is fair, I guess, being that it's
all for hobbyist use, being administered in someone's spare time. I just
wanted to get my VAXes running, easier to get someone to take notice when
you put down $50, I guess ;)
Best,
Sean
On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 4:37 PM, David Riley <fraveydank at gmail.com> wrote:
On Aug 1, 2014, at 1:49 PM, Sean Caron <scaron at umich.edu> wrote:
I don't think they'll issue hobbyist
licenses to Explorer Members. You
have
to pay $50 now AFAIK. (please correct me if this
is not the case?)
Curious. I signed up with DECUServe primarily because Encompass seemed
to be moribund when I did the signup (couldn't even connect to the HTTP
server). As far as I know, it's still free, and their VAX Notes list on
EISNER is a nice resource (albeit one I only poll every few months).
- Dave
2:04 p.m.
On 8/1/2014 12:15 PM, Eric Smith wrote:
On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 2:17 AM, John H. Reinhardt
<johnhreinhardt at yahoo.com> wrote:
It's easier (and cheaper) to get your member number through DECUServe.
Just telnet to decuserve.org, log in with the username REGISTRATION and
then follow the prompts. You'll end up with a DECUServe account on
their system named EISNER and you can get your member number by typing
HOBBYIST at the command prompt.
See the Hoffman Labs site page <http://labs.hoffmanlabs.com/node/1416>
for steps.
Then once you have that number go to
<http://plato.ccsscorp.com/hobbyist_registration.php3> to register for
your OpenVMS license PAKS. They should arrive the next business day in
your email.
Fairly easy and totally cheap.
John H. Reinhardt
On 4/7/2014 9:06 PM, David Coolbear wrote:
So what does a Connect/Encompass "Explorer Member" enter in the
required "Membership Number" field of the form? If I have any sort of
membership number, that's news to me.
I'm trying to remember how to get a
OpenVMS/VAX Hobbyist license. I have
the media. I have an account number for Encompass US, I just don't
remember
where to get the license.
Apply at:
http://plato.ccsscorp.com/hobbyist_registration.php3
or
http://www.openvms.org/hobbyist
8 Apr
8 Apr
1:18 a.m.
On 4/7/2014 9:06 PM, David Coolbear wrote:
I'm trying to remember how to get a OpenVMS/VAX
Hobbyist license. I have
the media. I have an account number for Encompass US, I just don't remember
where to get the license.
Apply at:
http://plato.ccsscorp.com/hobbyist_registration.php3
or
http://www.openvms.org/hobbyist
John H. Reinhardt
4:02 a.m.
On 4/7/2014 9:06 PM, David Coolbear wrote:
I'm trying to remember how to get a OpenVMS/VAX
Hobbyist license. I have
the media. I have an account number for Encompass US, I just don't remember
where to get the license.
Apply at:
http://plato.ccsscorp.com/hobbyist_registration.php3
or
http://www.openvms.org/hobbyist
John H. Reinhardt
10:30 a.m.
David Coolbear writes:
I'm trying to remember how to get a OpenVMS/VAX
Hobbyist license. I have
the media. I have an account number for Encompass US, I just don't remember
where to get the license.
Hi David,
The process is pretty simple now, though the page has jumped around a
bit over the past year. For now, use this URL (it may change in the
future):
http://plato.ccsscorp.com/hobbyist_registration.php3
I don't remember whether it's 100% automated or not -- I think it may
take up to day or so to get your licenses.
Regards,
-Seth
4:32 p.m.
On 04/08/2014 10:30 AM, Seth Morabito wrote:
The process is pretty simple now, though the page has
jumped around a
bit over the past year. For now, use this URL (it may change in the
future): http://plato.ccsscorp.com/hobbyist_registration.php3
I tried the form at openvms.org/hobbyist several times, trying to sort
out which "chapter" my old-school US DECUS membership had morphed into
(short answer: forgot about DECUServe). But in the end, I got no
response of any kind from any of these attempts...
I'll think happy thoughts and try the form at CCSS - I'd rather work
within the program if possible.
--S.
9 Apr
9 Apr
1:36 p.m.
On 04/08/2014 04:32 PM, Steven M Jones wrote:
On 04/08/2014 10:30 AM, Seth Morabito wrote:
I received email from HP today with license PAKs under the Hobbyist
program, less than 24 hours after submitting the form at CCSS Corp. YMMV
but I'd recommend using that over the OpenVMS.org form, at least for now.
--S.
The process is pretty simple now, though the page
has jumped around a
bit over the past year. For now, use this URL (it may change in the
future): http://plato.ccsscorp.com/hobbyist_registration.php3
I tried the form at
openvms.org/hobbyist several times, trying to sort
out which "chapter" my old-school US DECUS membership had morphed into
(short answer: forgot about DECUServe). But in the end, I got no
response of any kind from any of these attempts...
I'll think happy thoughts and try the form at CCSS - I'd rather work
within the program if possible.
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