14 Feb
2017
14 Feb
'17
8:29 p.m.
From: william degnan <billdegnan at gmail.com>
that's fine, but the reasoning was totally
political and narrow minded.
I'd be fascinated at a justification for this opinion that squared
with "John C. Calhoun?s legacy as a white supremacist and a national
leader who passionately promoted slavery as a ?positive good?".
14 Feb
14 Feb
8:46 p.m.
On Tue, 14 Feb 2017, Ken Seefried wrote:
I'd be fascinated at a justification for this
opinion that squared
with "John C. Calhoun?s legacy as a white supremacist and a national
leader who passionately promoted slavery as a ?positive good?".
And, once he graduated from Yale in 1804, he turned his back on the
college, with no further significant involvement, and didn't give them
money!
famous alum, before Yale had any other famous alums.
I'd say that Grace Hopper had a better legacy.
15 Feb
15 Feb
5:33 a.m.
On Tue, Feb 14, 2017 at 11:46 PM, Fred Cisin <cisin at xenosoft.com> wrote:
On Tue, 14 Feb 2017, Ken Seefried wrote:
Grace Hopper checks all the boxes of an acceptable historical figure,
today...100 years from now in the midst of an "anti technology" movement
students will vote to replace Hopper with someone more acceptable for that
time. She'd be the poster child villain of say an anti tech movement (like
the late 60's anti-tech movement). Live by the sword die by the sword.
http://vintagecomputer.net/browse_thread.cfm?id=654
(Revolutionary Force Bombs IBM Office ... Computerword March 18, 1970)
Bill
I'd be fascinated at a justification for this
opinion that squared
with "John C. Calhoun?s legacy as a white supremacist and a national
leader who passionately promoted slavery as a ?positive good?".
And, once he graduated from Yale in 1804, he turned his back on the
college, with no further significant involvement, and didn't give them
money!
famous alum, before Yale had any other famous alums.
I'd say that Grace Hopper had a better legacy.
7:24 a.m.
New subject: Ted Kaczynski was RIGHT! - was Re: Yale renames Calhoun College for Grace Hopper
On 2017-02-15 8:33 AM, william degnan wrote:
On Tue, Feb 14, 2017 at 11:46 PM, Fred Cisin <cisin
at xenosoft.com> wrote:
Even if your argument weren't absurd and offensive, Hopper isn't who any
sensible imaginary "anti-tech revolutionary" would go for. They'd
rightly go after the legacy of people like Zuckerberg, Thiel, Altman,
etc who *are* weaponising tech. They won't even remember what Hopper did.
--Toby
On Tue, 14 Feb 2017, Ken Seefried wrote:
Grace Hopper checks all the boxes of an acceptable historical figure,
today...100 years from now in the midst of an "anti technology" movement
... I'd be fascinated at a justification for this
opinion that squared
with "John C. Calhoun?s legacy as a white supremacist and a national
leader who passionately promoted slavery as a ?positive good?".
And, once he graduated from Yale in 1804, he turned his back on the
college, with no further significant involvement, and didn't give them
money!
famous alum, before Yale had any other famous alums.
I'd say that Grace Hopper had a better legacy.
http://vintagecomputer.net/browse_thread.cfm?id=654
(Revolutionary Force Bombs IBM Office ... Computerword March 18, 1970)
Bill
8:30 a.m.
New subject: Ted Kaczynski was RIGHT!
now we've devolved into complete absurdity.
mcl
10:06 a.m.
New subject: Ted Kaczynski was RIGHT!
I apologize to the list for having made the original post. I had the
privilege of once meeting Dr. Hopper and was quite impressed.
Again, I did not mean to start a kerfuffle.
--Chuck
10:14 a.m.
New subject: Ted Kaczynski was RIGHT!
I also attended one of her lectures in my distant youth and was similarly impressed; an
exceptional person indeed, especially considering the culture and politics of the day.
m
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chuck Guzis" <cclist at sydex.com>
To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk at
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Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2017 1:06 PM
Subject: Re: Ted Kaczynski was RIGHT!
I apologize to the list for having made the original
post. I had the
privilege of once meeting Dr. Hopper and was quite impressed.
Again, I did not mean to start a kerfuffle.
--Chuck
11:17 a.m.
New subject: Ted Kaczynski was RIGHT!
On 2/15/2017 10:14 AM, Mike Stein wrote:
I also attended one of her lectures in my distant
youth and was similarly impressed; an exceptional person indeed, especially considering
the culture and politics of the day.
m
I saw her speak twice, and at UMR we had a small enough group and she
had time and visited quite a while with the ACM there during her time on
campus. But she had only brought a couple of "nanoseconds" and so I
missed a chance to snag one.
Very nice lady.
thanks
Jim
11:42 a.m.
New subject: Ted Kaczynski was RIGHT!
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From: cctalk [cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] on behalf of Mike Stein [mhs.stein at
gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2017 1:14 PM
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: Re: Ted Kaczynski was RIGHT!
I also attended one of her lectures in my distant youth and was similarly impressed; an
exceptional person indeed, especially considering the culture and politics of the day.
m
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chuck Guzis" <cclist at sydex.com>
To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk at
classiccmp.org>
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2017 1:06 PM
Subject: Re: Ted Kaczynski was RIGHT!
I apologize to the list for having made the original
post. I had the
privilege of once meeting Dr. Hopper and was quite impressed.
Again, I did not mean to start a kerfuffle.
--Chuck
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I have a VCR Tape of one of here talks here somewhere.
But I am still waiting to hear what has caused this sudden flurry of Grace Murray Hopper
mania considering how muc of our domain (IT) seem to want her accomplishments to just
dry up and blow away.
bill
8:49 a.m.
New subject: Ted Kaczynski was RIGHT! - was Re: Yale renames Calhoun College for Grace Hopper
Besides, Kaczynski was Harvard, not Yale.
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