5 Feb
2004
5 Feb
'04
3:44 a.m.
On Wed, 4 Feb 2004 Paul Koning <pkoning(a)equallogic.com> wrote:
1. DECnet/E only supports the "old" network
terminal protocol, which
is object 21. The other one is "CTERM" which is implemented by VMS
and one or two other operating systems, but not DECnet/E. In fact, I
think none of the PDP11s do it; it's way too complex.
RSX definitely implements CTERM.
I think it's object 23.
2. DECnet/E works fine on E11. It's been a while
since I've tried
that but I did use it, under Linux that is. I was using
the "tap" pseudo-ethernet to debug DECnet/Linux against DECnet/E...
FWIW, there's an implementation of the "old" network terminal protocol
in the DECnet/Linux kit; with some hacking you can probably port that
and use it to talk to DECnet/E that way.
The DECnet/Linux implementation is so bad that I'd say it's unusable.
(Atleast when I tested to/from an RSX system.)
Johnny
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5 Feb
5 Feb
4:21 a.m.
On Thursday 05 February 2004 14:44, Johnny Billquist wrote:
On Wed, 4 Feb 2004 Paul Koning
<pkoning(a)equallogic.com> wrote:
I've had no trouble with it using it to communicate with VAX/VMS. The
author of most of it on the other hand..!
alex/melt
1. DECnet/E only supports the "old"
network terminal protocol, which
is object 21. The other one is "CTERM" which is implemented by VMS
and one or two other operating systems, but not DECnet/E. In fact,
I think none of the PDP11s do it; it's way too complex.
RSX definitely implements CTERM.
I think it's object 23.
2. DECnet/E works fine on E11. It's been a
while since I've tried
that but I did use it, under Linux that is. I was using
the "tap" pseudo-ethernet to debug DECnet/Linux against DECnet/E...
FWIW, there's an implementation of the "old" network terminal protocol
in the DECnet/Linux kit; with some hacking you can probably port that
and use it to talk to DECnet/E that way.
The DECnet/Linux implementation is so bad that I'd say it's unusable.
(Atleast when I tested to/from an RSX system.) 
4:55 a.m.
>>>> "Johnny" == Johnny Billquist
<bqt(a)update.uu.se> writes:
Johnny> On Wed, 4 Feb 2004 Paul Koning <pkoning(a)equallogic.com>
Johnny> wrote:
> 1. DECnet/E only supports the "old"
network terminal protocol,
> which is object 21. The other one is "CTERM" which is implemented
> by VMS and one or two other operating systems, but not DECnet/E.
> In fact, I think none of the PDP11s do it; it's way too complex.
Johnny> RSX definitely implements CTERM. I think it's object 23.
Object 23 is the old RMTERM protocol. CTERM is 42.
> 2. DECnet/E works fine on E11. It's been a
while since I've tried
> that but I did use it, under Linux that is. I was using the "tap"
> pseudo-ethernet to debug DECnet/Linux against DECnet/E...
>
> FWIW, there's an implementation of the "old" network terminal
> protocol in the DECnet/Linux kit; with some hacking you can
> probably port that and use it to talk to DECnet/E that way.
Johnny> The DECnet/Linux implementation is so bad that I'd say it's
Johnny> unusable. (Atleast when I tested to/from an RSX system.)
Unuseable for what? I didn't use it with RSX, but it works fine with
RSTS. That include rmterm... (I added that for RSTS and TOPS/20 but
not for RSX; maybe someone else has by now, if not I expect volunteers
would be welcomed...)
paul
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