At 03:57 PM 7/23/97 +0000, Daniel A. Seagraves wrote: This may be a real challenge. The Nautilus based systems (8800, 88x0, 8700, 85x0) have an interesting back plane using zif sockets. When the systems run they run, but when they go bad, they're horrible to fix. I spent a fair part of the last three years doing user maintenance on 8800s and an 8820 and I can tell you now that fixing these beasts can be a real pain. In particular, the diagnostics are unreliable at best. Even the professionals have problems, we had a Digital maintained 8800 die and after two weeks of three engineers they finally decided to ship a new system down from Sydney. Fortunately we managed to convince management to upgrade to newer systems. Huw Davies | e-mail: Huw.Davies(a)latrobe.edu.au Information Technology Services | Phone: +61 3 9479 1550 Fax: +61 3 9479 1999 La Trobe University | "My Alfas keep me poor in a monetary Melbourne Australia 3083 | sense, but rich in so many other ways"