Nope, the ribbon going to the drive is a standard IDE 40 pin cable (the drive has 44 pins), and the socket on the motherboard has only 40 pins. This why I was wondering if it was a non standard drive they used. Cheers k.j.whitehead(a)massey.ac.nz Keith Whitehead Electronics Technician Electronics Services Institute of Fundimental Sciences Massey University Palmerston North New Zealand 5301

Zane H. Healy wrote: Hell, I was on the Usenet when it was just a partial feed from a friend at Cal Tech to my little TRS-80 Model 16 two miles away with its 15-Meg HD that could handle a month's worth of my partial feed at a time (a full feed would have choked it in less than a week -- if I could handle the bandwidth) at 1200 baud back in the stone age (1986-7), when bang-path email could take a week or more to turn around. Usenet was a bit surreal in those days of _severely_ asynchronous communication (not the modems, just the messages crossing paths). I loved it, and if the over-advertised Internet keeps screwing up, 56Kbps modems (and 10-321 or whatever the latest long distance cheap service is) would let us build a better new Usenet than there used to be. And anybody who gave the phone numbers to AOL, Hotmail, any such scum, or ever allowed a binary file that wasn't uuencoded (and useful -- no hundred-part fuzzy porn need apply) to go through would be flogged from all of the L.sys or Systems files forever. Oh yeah, this would of course be *nix based (Unix, Linux, Sunos, etc.) as the gods meant it to be -- PCs are welcome only as terminal emulators if they're hosting parasites such as Windows or MS-DOS. -- Ward Griffiths They say that politics makes strange bedfellows. Of course, the main reason they cuddle up is to screw somebody else. Michael Flynn, _Rogue Star_