I know I'm beating a dead horse with the "can't we be a little nicer" question, but... Since _he_'s not going to get your reply (unless you CC'd him?), I assume you're just trying to impress the rest of us with your knowledge of RFC's? OK, I'm impressed, in more ways than one; you must have a lot of time on your hands to type all that instead of just cutting & pasting a message header. I'll send him the info, but if I were he and saw your reply in the archives I'd promptly unsubscribe and find some other place to discuss my classic computers. mike -----------Previous Message: Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2005 04:54:54 -0500 (EST) From: der Mouse <mouse at Rodents.Montreal.QC.CA> Subject: Re: joining the list ? Well, you could always try the standard -request address, as outlined in the last paragraph on page 5 of RFC 1118; the second question in section 9 of RFC 1206; the "mailing list" entry in RFC 1392; question 9.2 in RFC 1594; section 3.1.2 and 3.2.2 of RFC 1855; section 6 of RFC 2142; the last paragraph of section 1 of RFC 2369; and probably other places I didn't pick up offhand. If wherever you found out about the list includes messages with headers, you could also use either of the links present in the List-Subscribe: header of every list message.