29 Jan
1999
29 Jan
'99
3:16 a.m.
I just found out about this list so I thought I'd post this here in case
someone can help... I appologize if this is a repeat post!
Looking for anything HP21MX or HP2000 related - cpu's, peripherals, etc.
Many of the HP1000 system peripherals are of interest too. My particular
interest is TSB (Time Share BASIC), not RTE, so I'm also interested in
IOP Roms, etc.
Especially interested in the following:
21mx series cpus and controllers
2748A or 2748B high speed paper tape reader
790x type disk drives (7900, 7905, or 7906)
7970 tape drive
TSB 1541 rev c or later paper tape (binary, loader1, and loader2)
This is for a private collection, hobbyist use (not business or resale) -
does anyone have any of this stuff around in storage they'd be willing to
part with?
Please reply directly to jay(a)tseinc.com. Thanks!
Jay West
29 Jan
29 Jan
3:23 a.m.
New subject: Soviet BK-0010
I recently posted about the Soviet BK-0010 computer.
I've since found out a bit more information about it. I'm reliably told
that it has an actual PDP-11 processor inside it - and I naturally assumed
it was a PDP-11 clone. Its not. In fact, it is a computer-in-a-keyboard,
somewhat akin to the Commodore 64. The whole thing weighs 2kg or
thereabouts. It's a simple home computer. There are two versions - a
membrane keyboard (with brightly coloured keys!) and a "normal" keyboard
one. More information as it becomes available.
And here I was, expecting to have to arrange shipping for something the size
of a fridge!
I'm trying to arrange pictures - I may extend my site to include Soviet
Microcomputers, too :) But that would be "MOSMOW" and it doesn't have the
same catchy ring to it. I need a new acronym!
A
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http://www.comcen.com.au/~adavie/slide/calculator/soviet.html
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3:34 a.m.
New subject: Soviet BK-0010
Andrew Davie wrote:
I recently posted about the Soviet BK-0010 computer.
I've since found out a bit more information about it. I'm reliably told
that it has an actual PDP-11 processor inside it - and I naturally assumed
it was a PDP-11 clone. Its not. In fact, it is a computer-in-a-keyboard,
somewhat akin to the Commodore 64. The whole thing weighs 2kg or
thereabouts. It's a simple home computer. There are two versions - a
membrane keyboard (with brightly coloured keys!) and a "normal" keyboard
one. More information as it becomes available.
And here I was, expecting to have to arrange shipping for something the size
of a fridge!
I'm trying to arrange pictures - I may extend my site to include Soviet
Microcomputers, too :) But that would be "MOSMOW" and it doesn't have the
same catchy ring to it. I need a new acronym!
Jerome Fine replies:
Is this computer able to run any of the PDP-11 OSs? Which ones? Does it
also have an OS which uses a Russian alphabet? Were any of there OSs
pirated from the original OSs when the CCCP did not pay any license fees
for western software?
I realize that these are probably the questions that you are looking into and
don't have answers to as yet, but I thought I would ask just in case.
Sincerely yours,
Jerome Fine
12:28 p.m.
New subject: Soviet BK-0010
On Fri, Jan 29, 1999 at 09:34:58AM -0500, Jerome Fine wrote:
> I recently posted about the Soviet BK-0010
computer.
> I've since found out a bit more information about it. I'm reliably told
> that it has an actual PDP-11 processor inside it - and I naturally assumed
> it was a PDP-11 clone. Its not. In fact, it is a computer-in-a-keyboard,
> somewhat akin to the Commodore 64. The whole thing weighs 2kg or
> thereabouts. It's a simple home computer. There are two versions - a
> membrane keyboard (with brightly coloured keys!) and a "normal" keyboard
Jerome Fine replies:
Is this computer able to run any of the PDP-11 OSs? Which ones? Does it
also have an OS which uses a Russian alphabet? Were any of there OSs
pirated from the original OSs when the CCCP did not pay any license fees
for western software?
Of DEC OSs, BK-0010 runs at least RT-11 5.3 (under name of Net-RT11); there
are other, custom OSs available (ANDOS, MKDOS, CSIDOS...) They do use
Russian alphabet.
There's a LOT to tell about this machine, but I'm not the right person to
do it. The whole story is big, and needs to be written by someone who "was
there". I only know random facts.
The right place to ask questions is news://fido7.mo.dec (which is
bidirectionally gatewayed from FidoNet echo MO.DEC on 2:5020 backbone.)
NB: go to http://www.fido7.ru/ before you post there.
Related URLs:
http://www.users.itl.net.ua/~prool/BK-0010.html
Short info about the machine
http://people.weekend.ru/vanyas/museumbk/
http://www.halyava.ru/magicpage/
Museum of BK-0010
http://rdc.cch.pmc.ru/
BK-0010 emulator for the Amiga
http://www.chat.ru/~samosvl/
Internet and education
http://yandex.ru/yandsearch?text=%22%E1%EA-0010%22&formal=on
Hits returned by Yandex search engine (arguably the best search
engine for pages in Russian)
http://www.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=228171597
"How original design was killed by The Mgt. and replaced by LSI-11
compatible one"
--
Sergey Svishchev -- svs{at}ropnet{dot}ru
6:44 a.m.
New subject: Soviet BK-0010
On Sat, 30 Jan 1999, Andrew Davie wrote:
I'm trying to arrange pictures - I may extend my
site to include Soviet
Microcomputers, too :) But that would be "MOSMOW" and it doesn't have the
same catchy ring to it. I need a new acronym!
It doesn't have to be Microcomputers. Microcomputers are Computers too.
Try making an acronym of KREMLIN.
Sellam Alternate e-mail: dastar(a)siconic.com
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9:45 a.m.
New subject: Soviet BK-0010
OK, another interesting snippet... the BK-0010 was released using the
language FOCAL. BASIC came a bit later.
I have been offered several of these machines and can find several more.
Getting them out of Russia is/will be time consuming and expensive. At this
stage I plan only to grab machines for myself - but if you really want one
drop me a line. WARNING: One of these machines will cost you $150+ by the
time all fees/postage/currency conversion/duty are paid, and I'm looking at
a 6 month lead-time.
A
--
adavie(a)mad.scientist.com
visit the Museum of Soviet Calculators at
http://www.comcen.com.au/~adavie/slide/calculator/soviet.html
a Yahoo!, Netscape, Wall Street Journal, Newsweek and New Scientist Cool
Site!?
?
1:49 p.m.
Hi Jay,
Welcome to the list. Where are you located? I collect smaller HPs
(9000s, 98xx stuff, 85s, calculators, etc).
At 08:16 AM 1/29/99 -0600, you wrote:
I just found out about this list so I thought I'd
post this here in case
someone can help... I appologize if this is a repeat post!
Looking for anything HP21MX or HP2000 related - cpu's, peripherals, etc.
Many of the HP1000 system peripherals are of interest too. My particular
interest is TSB (Time Share BASIC), not RTE, so I'm also interested in
IOP Roms, etc.
Especially interested in the following:
21mx series cpus and controllers
2748A or 2748B high speed paper tape reader
790x type disk drives (7900, 7905, or 7906)
I just send two HP 7907s with MAC interfaces to another list member.
7970 tape drive
TSB 1541 rev c or later paper tape (binary, loader1, and loader2)
This is for a private collection, hobbyist use (not business or resale) -
does anyone have any of this stuff around in storage they'd be willing to
part with?
Please reply directly to jay(a)tseinc.com. Thanks!
What do you do at Software Exchange (tseinc.com)?
Jay West
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