21 Oct
2000
21 Oct
'00
7:35 a.m.
Hi all
I have to refer to the collective wisdom of the list.
Here's the problem:
I live in the frozen land of Minnesota, I have a 12'x16' shed full of empty
cardboard boxes, I have a house full (and I mean full) of computers.
Would it be safe for the computers to spend the winters in the cardboard
boxes in the shed?
Should I insulate the shed first?
Should I move to the shed and store the computers in the bedroom?
Thanks
Francois
21 Oct
21 Oct
6:18 a.m.
Thoughts...
Should be okay if:
you pull the cmos/pram batteries
you seal in plastic with dessicant
Of course, I could be wrong. You might also check the typical
'environmental conditions' for the systems though I believe that
that's operational parameters...
Jim Arnott
7:49 a.m.
On Sat, 21 Oct 2000, Sue & Francois wrote:
Would it be safe for the computers to spend the
winters in the cardboard
boxes in the shed?
Should I insulate the shed first?
Should I move to the shed and store the computers in the bedroom?
Intuition tells me you defintely want to insulate the shed, as well as
shield it from critters.
Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival
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7:54 a.m.
Sue & Francois wrote:
Hi all
I have to refer to the collective wisdom of the list.
Here's the problem:
I live in the frozen land of Minnesota, I have a 12'x16' shed full of empty
cardboard boxes, I have a house full (and I mean full) of computers.
I would not submit my computer collection to the low low temperatures
you get in Minnesota (like here in Quebec)...
One answer for more space : SHELVES, SHELVES, SHELVES...I taught I was
running outta space until I installed approx a total of 48 feet (3 times
16 feet of 16" wide shelves seperated by 14") attached to drywall with
metal brackets. About $8-$10 for the 8 foot long white wood shelves and
$1 for each bracket. A good investement...
Second : do regular clean ups...Yes you might throw away something that
can be used one day...but still...space is space...I rather have less
stuff all clean and neat then a ton of stuff in a mess...but thats me...
For "home" PC collecting it is great. Most of my collection (Atari,
Apple, Macs, Trs80s...) is there and can be admired and connected and
booted in less then 2-3 minutes...But I don't think the drywall and
shelves could hold up a VAX...
Claude
Would it be safe for the computers to spend the winters in the cardboard
boxes in the shed?
Should I insulate the shed first?
I would not let my collection live in sub 0 temperatures.
Should I move to the shed and store the computers in
the bedroom?
Thanks
Francois
5:35 p.m.
At 09:35 AM 10/21/00 -0700, you wrote:
Hi all
I have to refer to the collective wisdom of the list.
Here's the problem:
I live in the frozen land of Minnesota, I have a 12'x16' shed full of empty
cardboard boxes, I have a house full (and I mean full) of computers.
Would it be safe for the computers to spend the winters in the cardboard
boxes in the shed?
I think so but I'd put each one in a plastic bad adn seal it first to
prevent condensation.
Should I insulate the shed first?
I doubt it would help unless you have at least some heat in the shed.
Should I move to the shed and store the computers in
the bedroom?
That might be a good idea but I doubt you could convince your wife to
move out there too. I know I couldn't convince mine!
Joe
Thanks
Francois
24 Oct
24 Oct
6:45 a.m.
At 09:35 AM 10/21/00 -0700, Sue & Francois wrote:
I live in the frozen land of Minnesota, I have a
12'x16' shed full of empty
cardboard boxes, I have a house full (and I mean full) of computers.
I've noticed that cardboard boxes don't fare well when subjected
to high humidity, either. They lose their strength in a dramatic
fashion. Even when dried, they don't seem quite the same.
- John
9:11 a.m.
Should I insulate the shed first?
I'd like to say a bit on insulation.
Seems that warming cold metal with warm air is a bad
thing. The way the air reacts to a cold object is by
dumping its moisture on it and moisture leads to rust.
The bigger problem with outside storage is not
necessarily extreme hot or cold, but here the degree of
temperature change over a small period of time, like
a day.
And the more closely storage is left to the outside air,
the more vulnerabe to temperature fluctuations things
get. This was summed up to me nicely by a friend who
happens to be an industrial engineer.
So to make a long story short: less insulation equals
more rust.
John A.
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