12 Jul
2001
12 Jul
'01
5:24 p.m.
Hi folks!
I'm a newbie - I just subscribed. ;-)
I'm having some difficulty with a SPARCstation LX I rescued from the
dumpster at work. It's got SunOS 4.1.3_UI installed on it, but it expects
to find a server on a network. I can boot to the "#" prompt with "boot
-s"
but with autoboot the machine tries to find a server called "scanlab" on the
TPE. It reports le0: No Carrier... and retries ad infinity.
But what I really want to do is just install a fresh copy of Solaris 2.4.
I've got a CD marked "Solaris 2.4 Hardware: 11/94" but I don't know if
it is
really the solaris install cd.
Also, when i boot from the cdrom ("boot cdrom"), the system starts loading
SunOS 5.4. But I get a warning immediately after the copyright appears.
"Data transfer overrun" and it prints out "current esp states:" and
lists
several esp states.... (whatever those are)...
The LX reboots from the default boot directory.
I'm sorry that I'm such a newbie. This is my very first Sun machine and I'm
very excited about getting it up and running, but I know nthing about it :-(
I'm open to any suggestions that you folks might give me...
Here's my setup:
Sun SPARCstation LX, 48MB RAM, 450MB internal hd, external 411 hd (ID 1) -
not sure of the capacity but I think it's ~500MB, and a Matsushita (LaCie
rebranded) CD-R at ID 6.
Thanks for being patient with me!
Peace,
Drew
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6:23 p.m.
Andrew Kershaw wrote:
Hi folks!
I'm a newbie - I just subscribed. ;-)
I'm having some difficulty with a SPARCstation LX I rescued from the
dumpster at work. It's got SunOS 4.1.3_UI installed on it, but it expects
to find a server on a network. I can boot to the "#" prompt with "boot
-s"
but with autoboot the machine tries to find a server called "scanlab" on the
TPE. It reports le0: No Carrier... and retries ad infinity.
There might be some useful info here
http://www.woa.com.au/terryc/hardware/sparc/
and on some of the links.
Or best http://www.obsolyte.com
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13 Jul
13 Jul
3:15 a.m.
Hi folks!
I'm a newbie - I just subscribed. ;-)
I'm having some difficulty with a SPARCstation LX I rescued from the
dumpster at work. It's got SunOS 4.1.3_UI installed on it, but it expects
to find a server on a network. I can boot to the "#" prompt with "boot
-s"
but with autoboot the machine tries to find a server called "scanlab" on the
TPE. It reports le0: No Carrier... and retries ad infinity.
OK... the OS is intact.
There's two problems here:
The ethernet le0 is not connected to the network and it's trying
to connect. The No Carrier problem possibly be fixed by removing
/etc/defaultrouter and /etc/defaultdomain -- so it doesn't try
to start the network at boot.
/etc/fstab may be trying to mount disks from a server over NFS
and it may be set for yp (nis) for password authentication from a
server.
But what I really want to do is just install a fresh copy of Solaris 2.4.
I've got a CD marked "Solaris 2.4 Hardware: 11/94" but I don't know if
it is
really the solaris install cd.
Ugh.
Solaris 2.4 was no bargain... I wouldn't use anything less than 2.5.
I'd probably try 2.6. On IPX's and Sparc2's I'd prefer the SunOS
4.1.3_U1. The LX should (iirc) run Solaris 8 as well. I believe the
architecture is Sun4m rather than Sun4c.
Also, when i boot from the cdrom ("boot
cdrom"), the system starts loading
SunOS 5.4. But I get a warning immediately after the copyright appears.
"Data transfer overrun" and it prints out "current esp states:" and
lists
several esp states.... (whatever those are)...
Sounds like scsi termination or cable problems. Does your CD drive
do 512 byte sectors instead of 2k. To install on a Sun or Vax is has
to.
I'm sorry that I'm such a newbie. This is my
very first Sun machine and I'm
very excited about getting it up and running, but I know nthing about it :-(
No problem.
I'm open to any suggestions that you folks might give me...
Here's my setup:
Sun SPARCstation LX, 48MB RAM, 450MB internal hd, external 411 hd (ID 1) -
not sure of the capacity but I think it's ~500MB, and a Matsushita (LaCie
rebranded) CD-R at ID 6.
Sounds like it could be the CD.
I know many Teac's, Toshibas and Sony's can do 512bytes/sector.
I've got a couple of Sun compatible CD drives if you need them.
BTW -- the LX will take standard 72 pin true parity simms
if you want to update the memory.
I've got an IPX which tops out at 64mb...
Thanks for being patient with me!
Peace,
Drew
No problem.
Bill
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5:42 a.m.
--- Bill Pechter <pechter(a)bg-tc-ppp724.monmouth.com> wrote:
You can also stuff a pair of 32Mb 72-pin parity SIMMs in the first bank (it's
all done in pairs), giving you a maximum of 128Mb on a Classic or LX. Mine
has 2 x 32Mb + 2 x 16Mb + 2 x 4Mb for a total of 108Mb. That and a couple of
9Mb SCSI-narrow drives and it hums along nicely under Solaris 7. It will never
set any speed records, to be sure. It's about the same level of responsiveness
as a SPARC2 or IPX even though it's a 50Mhz MicroSparcII chip (QFP soldered,
no upgrade possible, unlike the SPARC2 and IPX), but the big benefit is that
it is sun4m and has a longer useful life if you don't need to wring any speed
out of it.
The next rung up on the ladder is a SPARC5 70Mhz. Those are nearly at "haul
them away" status, but they take SCA connector drives internally, have a
short CD-ROM bay, etc.
There is a suns-at-home list that people with personal SPARC hardware might
consider joining. General information about the mailing list is at:
http://www.net-kitchen.com/mailman/listinfo/suns-at-home
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Hi folks!
I'm a newbie - I just subscribed. ;-)
I'm having some difficulty with a SPARCstation LX I rescued from the
dumpster at work. It's got SunOS 4.1.3_UI installed on it, but it expects
to find a server on a network. I can boot to the "#" prompt with "boot
-s"
Ugh.
Solaris 2.4 was no bargain... I wouldn't use anything less than 2.5.
I'd probably try 2.6. On IPX's and Sparc2's I'd prefer the SunOS
4.1.3_U1.
Agreed. For a flood of reasons, I'd consider 2.5.1 to be the baseline for
experimenting with old Solaris unless you are aiming for something historical.
The LX should (iirc) run Solaris 8 as well. I believe
the
architecture is Sun4m rather than Sun4c.
It is and it will. My main server at home was an LX until the SCSI died; now
it' a Classic (same basic internals, lower-end audio and video than an LX).
I'm open
to any suggestions that you folks might give me...
Here's my setup:
Sun SPARCstation LX, 48MB RAM, 450MB internal hd, external 411 hd (ID 1) -
not sure of the capacity but I think it's ~500MB, and a Matsushita (LaCie
rebranded) CD-R at ID 6.
BTW -- the LX will take standard 72 pin true parity simms
if you want to update the memory. 
6:40 a.m.
New subject: Sparc at home
The next rung up on the ladder is a SPARC5 70Mhz.
Those are nearly at "haul
them away" status, but they take SCA connector drives internally, have a
short CD-ROM bay, etc.
There is a suns-at-home list that people with personal SPARC hardware might
consider joining. General information about the mailing list is at:
http://www.net-kitchen.com/mailman/listinfo/suns-at-home
-ethan
Well, If I ever find an LX or Classic or Sparc5 at haul it away
prices I'll laugh all the way home to my CD collection.
I've been unable to find them cheap enough around here. (NJ)
My department still ran Sparc5's and 20's at Lucent last year.
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7:01 a.m.
New subject: Sparc at home
I run a sparc IPX with NetBSD as my firewall. I use the serial console
so that I don't have to have a big non-multisync monitor and/or extra
keyboard/mouse pair sitting on my desk. The box is plenty fast enough
for a firewall and it sits there running quitely month after month, quite
happy. It is on a UPS:-)
--tom
At 11:40 AM 7/13/01 -0400, you wrote:
> The next rung up on the ladder is a SPARC5 70Mhz.
Those are nearly at
"haul
them
away" status, but they take SCA connector drives internally, have a
short CD-ROM bay, etc.
There is a suns-at-home list that people with personal SPARC hardware might
consider joining. General information about the mailing list is at:
http://www.net-kitchen.com/mailman/listinfo/suns-at-home
-ethan
Well, If I ever find an LX or Classic or Sparc5 at haul it away
prices I'll laugh all the way home to my CD collection.
I've been unable to find them cheap enough around here. (NJ)
My department still ran Sparc5's and 20's at Lucent last year.
Bill
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7:41 a.m.
New subject: Sparc at home
The next rung
up on the ladder is a SPARC5 70Mhz. Those are nearly at "haul
them away" status, but they take SCA connector drives internally, have a
short CD-ROM bay, etc.
There is a suns-at-home list that people with personal SPARC hardware might
consider joining. General information about the mailing list is at:
http://www.net-kitchen.com/mailman/listinfo/suns-at-home
-ethan
Well, If I ever find an LX or Classic or Sparc5 at haul it away
prices I'll laugh all the way home to my CD collection.
I've been unable to find them cheap enough around here. (NJ)
My department still ran Sparc5's and 20's at Lucent last year. 
8:07 a.m.
New subject: Sparc at home
I wouldn't mind a SS20 at haul-away prices, even
without CPUs.
I've got a bunch of CPUs, just no box to put them in.
The SS20 chassis themselves can be found in the $100-200 range, not to bad,
it's when you start adding the rest of the parts they get expensive. I got
"lucky" for $150 I got the chassis, 2 SM71's, and the internal CD-ROM.
Plus I already had a good stash of S-Bus cards, and a couple drive brackets
(from my SS5/70). So I only really had to add RAM, and I already had 16MB
so I could test it.
How expensive is a CPU-less Sparc Ultra? I can get a
cheap
360u CPU if I can get a cheap system without CPU.
What chassis? An Ultra 2 Chassis still goes for big bucks. Me, I need an
Ultra 2 case and CPU's, I've got a Motherboard with a dead Ethernet
connection. I'd love a nice loaded Ultra 2, that would make a *really*
nice home UNIX box!
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8:42 a.m.
New subject: Sparc at home
I wouldn't
mind a SS20 at haul-away prices, even without CPUs.
I've got a bunch of CPUs, just no box to put them in.
The SS20 chassis themselves can be found in the $100-200 range, not to bad,
it's when you start adding the rest of the parts they get expensive. I got
"lucky" for $150 I got the chassis, 2 SM71's, and the internal CD-ROM.
Plus I already had a good stash of S-Bus cards, and a couple drive brackets
(from my SS5/70). So I only really had to add RAM, and I already had 16MB
so I could test it. How expensive
is a CPU-less Sparc Ultra? I can get a cheap
360u CPU if I can get a cheap system without CPU.
What chassis? An Ultra 2 Chassis still goes for big bucks. Me, I need an
Ultra 2 case and CPU's, I've got a Motherboard with a dead Ethernet
connection. I'd love a nice loaded Ultra 2, that would make a *really*
nice home UNIX box! 
4:28 p.m.
New subject: Sparc at home
will an ultra 2 mainboard fit in an ultra 1 chassis?
At 10:07 AM 7/13/01 -0700, you wrote:
I wouldn't
mind a SS20 at haul-away prices, even without CPUs.
I've got a bunch of CPUs, just no box to put them in.
The SS20 chassis themselves can be found in the $100-200 range, not to bad,
it's when you start adding the rest of the parts they get expensive. I got
"lucky" for $150 I got the chassis, 2 SM71's, and the internal CD-ROM.
Plus I already had a good stash of S-Bus cards, and a couple drive brackets
(from my SS5/70). So I only really had to add RAM, and I already had 16MB
so I could test it.
How expensive is a CPU-less Sparc Ultra? I can
get a cheap
360u CPU if I can get a cheap system without CPU.
What chassis? An Ultra 2 Chassis still goes for big bucks. Me, I need an
Ultra 2 case and CPU's, I've got a Motherboard with a dead Ethernet
connection. I'd love a nice loaded Ultra 2, that would make a *really*
nice home UNIX box!
Zane
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+----------------------------------+----------------------------+
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9:15 a.m.
New subject: Sparc at home
--- Bill Pechter <pechter(a)bg-tc-ppp910.monmouth.com> wrote:
My only "haul-it-away" LX died. I replaced it with a Classic I got from
Ohio State surplus when they had a pallet of them earlier this year (no, I
didn't buy the entire pallet, just a couple). They were diskless, had 16Mb
of RAM (4 x 4Mb), password locked and booted off the network. I was able to
turn my box into a diskless server off of the CD-ROM drive and get the Classics
to a root prompt and clear the password with the eeprom command.
The next rung
up on the ladder is a SPARC5 70Mhz. Those are nearly at
"haul them away" status...
Well, If I ever find an LX or Classic or Sparc5 at haul it away
prices I'll laugh all the way home to my CD collection. I've been unable to find them cheap enough around
here. (NJ)
My department still ran Sparc5's and 20's at Lucent last year.
I found out that a my old Lucent cube, they just turned off my SPARC5/110
and moved it last week. I left in March, 1999. Nobody ever took my place
when my contract ran out.
I'm waiting until I can find a usable SPARC5 under $300 (monitor not included -
I got a 20E20 from OSU surplus for $20 and a 17Esomething for $15! - stuff
with 13W3 connectors goes cheap) I passed a fellow at Dayton with a pair
of SPARC5/80s with unknown amounts of RAM and disk; he paid under $200 for
both. That's the kind of deal I'm looking for. I already have the skinny
CD-ROM drive. I have one in my Bomac tower on my Amiga 2000 I use to test
GG2 Bus+ boards. Works great on an A2091, and fits in the last open space
on the front of the tower.
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9:33 a.m.
New subject: Sparc at home
I got a 20E20 from OSU surplus for $20 and a
17Esomething for $15! - stuff
with 13W3 connectors goes cheap) I passed a fellow at Dayton with a pair
of SPARC5/80s with unknown amounts of RAM and disk; he paid under $200 for
both. That's the kind of deal I'm looking for. I already have the skinny
CD-ROM drive. I have one in my Bomac tower on my Amiga 2000 I use to test
GG2 Bus+ boards. Works great on an A2091, and fits in the last open space
on the front of the tower.
-ethan
Sounds pretty good... I'd go for a cheap Sparc10 or 20 in a minute
so I can have one Solaris 8 box up at home.
I'm getting the Vax running this weekend and need to add AIX and HP-UX
to keep current.
I wish I can find Ultrix-32 for the Vax.
I'm going to look for Linux Decnet...
bill
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9:51 a.m.
New subject: Sparc at home
> I got a 20E20 from OSU surplus for $20 and a
17Esomething for $15! - stuff
I WISH!!!! I've been looking for working Sun Monitors around here and they
aren't to be found! I can't even find a working GDM-1962, though I've
found 4 dead ones!
Anyone know if you can hook a IBM P200 up to a Sparc? IIRC, the 13W3
pinout is different. I recently got one and have it hooked up to my Linux
box. I love the P200's, I've also got one on my Linux box at work.
I wish I can find Ultrix-32 for the Vax.
I'm going to look for Linux Decnet...
Get the Ancient UNIX License, IIRC, the PUPS archive has Ultrix-32.
Remember though, it's a VAX, it *SHOULD* be running OpenVMS!!!
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10:01 a.m.
New subject: Sparc at home
> I got a
20E20 from OSU surplus for $20 and a 17Esomething for $15! - stuff
I WISH!!!! I've been looking for working Sun Monitors around here and they
aren't to be found! I can't even find a working GDM-1962, though I've
found 4 dead ones!
Anyone know if you can hook a IBM P200 up to a Sparc? IIRC, the 13W3
pinout is different. I recently got one and have it hooked up to my Linux
box. I love the P200's, I've also got one on my Linux box at work.
I wish I can find Ultrix-32 for the Vax.
I'm going to look for Linux Decnet...
Get the Ancient UNIX License, IIRC, the PUPS archive has Ultrix-32.
Remember though, it's a VAX, it *SHOULD* be running OpenVMS!!!
Zane
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11 a.m.
New subject: Sparc at home
Anyone know if you can hook a IBM P200 up to a Sparc? IIRC, the 13W3
pinout is different. I recently got one and have it hooked up to my Linux
box. I love the P200's, I've also got one on my Linux box at work.
I've got a P17. If anyone has a cable adapter pinout please post them.
10:50 a.m.
New subject: Sparc at home
--- "Zane H. Healy" <healyzh(a)aracnet.com> wrote:
I can keep my eyes out. Let me know offline what you are looking for and I'll
beat the bushes. Older Sony monitors are much easier to find than anything
else, of course, and weigh a ton.
What versions? I have distro kits for lots of VAX Ultrix releases in the
1986 - 1994 timeframe. Mostly on 16MT9, but a couple of TK50s. I'd be
happy to see these preserved. I even recently found some SYSV and SYSIII
magtapes. No idea if they can still be read. My only working tape drive
is a TU80 that hasn't been powered on in a couple of years (just got some
TE16s last year that were stripped for sensors before they got to me; might
still be able to get a TapeStretcher-11 that was hooked to a 11/750 I got
> I got a
20E20 from OSU surplus for $20 and a 17Esomething for $15! - stuff
I WISH!!!! I've been looking for working Sun Monitors around here and they
aren't to be found! I can't even find a working GDM-1962, though I've
found 4 dead ones! Anyone know if you can hook a IBM P200 up to a Sparc?
IIRC, the 13W3
pinout is different. I recently got one and have it hooked up to my Linux
box. I love the P200's, I've also got one on my Linux box at work.
I do not know much about any other 13W3 monitors, except that SGI also has
their own 13W3 pinout, but you can make a swabber.
I wish I can
find Ultrix-32 for the Vax.
I'm going to look for Linux Decnet...
Get the Ancient UNIX License, IIRC, the PUPS archive has Ultrix-32.
Remember though, it's a VAX, it *SHOULD* be running OpenVMS!!! from a company in Dayton some time ago). I'd love
to have a SCSI magtape
drive to make it easier to capture tape images - just fire up
the laptop
with the APA1460 card and off I go!
My first UNIX experience was 4.1BSD on an 11/750 (and I _have_ that exact
machine). My first UNIX adminstration experience was loading Ultrix 1.1
onto an 11/730 (got that one, too!). It was once known as
...ihnp4!cbosgd!osu-eddie!osucis!kpanda, or something very close to that.
We always had to support both VMS and Ultrix/BSD for our customers. I never
threw away a single manual or distribution tape the entire time I was there.
Fortunately, the boss let me back the truck up against the door as my final
paycheck. The stuff I had to leave behind (sniff)...
-ethan
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4:43 p.m.
New subject: Sparc at home
Many of the Macintosh Fixed Frequency monitors will work fine with a sun :)
At 12:50 PM 7/13/01 -0700, you wrote:
--- "Zane H. Healy"
<healyzh(a)aracnet.com> wrote:
What versions? I have distro kits for lots of VAX Ultrix releases in the
1986 - 1994 timeframe. Mostly on 16MT9, but a couple of TK50s. I'd be
happy to see these preserved. I even recently found some SYSV and SYSIII
magtapes. No idea if they can still be read. My only working tape drive
is a TU80 that hasn't been powered on in a couple of years (just got some
TE16s last year that were stripped for sensors before they got to me; might
still be able to get a TapeStretcher-11 that was hooked to a 11/750 I got
from a company in Dayton some time ago). I'd love to have a SCSI magtape
drive to make it easier to capture tape images - just fire up the laptop
with the APA1460 card and off I go!
My first UNIX experience was 4.1BSD on an 11/750 (and I _have_ that exact
machine). My first UNIX adminstration experience was loading Ultrix 1.1
onto an 11/730 (got that one, too!). It was once known as
...ihnp4!cbosgd!osu-eddie!osucis!kpanda, or something very close to that.
We always had to support both VMS and Ultrix/BSD for our customers. I never
threw away a single manual or distribution tape the entire time I was there.
Fortunately, the boss let me back the truck up against the door as my final
paycheck. The stuff I had to leave behind (sniff)...
-ethan
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>> I got a 20E20 from OSU surplus for $20
and a 17Esomething for $15! -
stuff
I WISH!!!! I've been looking for working Sun Monitors around here and they
aren't to be found! I can't even find a working GDM-1962, though I've
found 4 dead ones!
I can keep my eyes out. Let me know offline what you are looking for and I'll
beat the bushes. Older Sony monitors are much easier to find than anything
else, of course, and weigh a ton.
Anyone know if you can hook a IBM P200 up to a
Sparc? IIRC, the 13W3
pinout is different. I recently got one and have it hooked up to my Linux
box. I love the P200's, I've also got one on my Linux box at work.
I do not know much about any other 13W3 monitors, except that SGI also has
their own 13W3 pinout, but you can make a swabber.
I wish I
can find Ultrix-32 for the Vax.
I'm going to look for Linux Decnet...
Get the Ancient UNIX License, IIRC, the PUPS archive has Ultrix-32.
Remember though, it's a VAX, it *SHOULD* be running OpenVMS!!! 
11:40 a.m.
New subject: Sparc at home
I wish I can
find Ultrix-32 for the Vax.
I'm going to look for Linux Decnet...
Get the Ancient UNIX License, IIRC, the PUPS archive has Ultrix-32.
Remember though, it's a VAX, it *SHOULD* be running OpenVMS!!!
Zane 
4:37 p.m.
New subject: Sparc at home
On Fri, 13 Jul 2001, Zane H. Healy wrote:
Define "around here". I have a couple color and mono monitors from
Sparc-1's that I could get rid of. Keeps them out of the landfill.
And before anybody asks, no, I would not even consider trying to
package and ship them anywhere.
Ummm. No. Ultrix-32 is not covered by the Ancient Unix License and
the last time I talked with Warren it was not available. Ultrix-11
is, but I hardly think that will run on a VAX. Of course, none of the
above precludes running Ultrix-32 on a VAX as Compaq doesn't seem to
care enough about it to even talk to anyone about it.
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> I got a
20E20 from OSU surplus for $20 and a 17Esomething for $15! - stuff
I WISH!!!! I've been looking for working Sun Monitors around here and they
aren't to be found! I can't even find a working GDM-1962, though I've
found 4 dead ones! I wish I can find Ultrix-32 for the Vax.
I'm going to look for Linux Decnet...
Get the Ancient UNIX License, IIRC, the PUPS archive has Ultrix-32.
Remember though, it's a VAX, it *SHOULD* be running OpenVMS!!!
5:01 p.m.
New subject: Sparc at home
On Fri, 13 Jul 2001, Zane H. Healy wrote:
Define "around here". I have a couple color and mono monitors from
Sparc-1's that I could get rid of. Keeps them out of the landfill.
And before anybody asks, no, I would not even consider trying to
package and ship them anywhere.
Portland, OR. And, don't worry, I wouldn't even consider shipping!
> I got
a 20E20 from OSU surplus for $20 and a 17Esomething for $15! - stuff
I WISH!!!! I've been looking for working Sun Monitors around here and they
aren't to be found! I can't even find a working GDM-1962, though I've
found 4 dead ones! Ummm. No. Ultrix-32 is not covered by the Ancient
Unix License and
the last time I talked with Warren it was not available. Ultrix-11
is, but I hardly think that will run on a VAX. Of course, none of the
above precludes running Ultrix-32 on a VAX as Compaq doesn't seem to
care enough about it to even talk to anyone about it.
Better go take a look at the PUPS archive. V1.0 and V1.2 is on it as near
as I can tell. I looked earlier this afternoon. I detailed what I found in
an earlier message.
Zane
4:48 p.m.
New subject: Sparc at home
Heck, portland isn't that far south (I'm in Renton, WA, just a wee bit SE
of seattle)
there are places around here that hav sun monitors.
At 07:01 PM 7/13/01 -0700, you wrote:
Portland, OR. And, don't worry, I wouldn't even consider shipping!
On Fri, 13 Jul
2001, Zane H. Healy wrote:
> >> I got a 20E20 from OSU surplus for $20 and a 17Esomething for $15!
- stuff
>
> I WISH!!!! I've been looking for working Sun Monitors around here
and
they
aren't to be found! I can't even find a working GDM-1962, though I've
found 4 dead ones!
Define "around here". I have a couple color and mono monitors from
Sparc-1's that I could get rid of. Keeps them out of the landfill.
And before anybody asks, no, I would not even consider trying to
package and ship them anywhere. Ummm. No. Ultrix-32 is not covered by the
Ancient Unix License and
the last time I talked with Warren it was not available. Ultrix-11
is, but I hardly think that will run on a VAX. Of course, none of the
above precludes running Ultrix-32 on a VAX as Compaq doesn't seem to
care enough about it to even talk to anyone about it.
Better go take a look at the PUPS archive. V1.0 and V1.2 is on it as near
as I can tell. I looked earlier this afternoon. I detailed what I found in
an earlier message.
Zane
14 Jul
14 Jul
4:35 a.m.
New subject: Sparc at home
On Fri, 13 Jul 2001, Zane H. Healy wrote:
Too bad. But the offer stands for anyone else close enough to
Scranton/Wilkes-Barre PA. to come by and pick one up.
Interesting. Not very long ago I was discussing this with Warren and
others on PUPS and the concensus (contrary to my belief) was that while
Ultrix-11 was V7 based and therefore came under the Ancient Unix License.
Ultrix-32 supposedly was based on a much later version and did not. It
seems that it must be only the versions after 1.x that fall under this
restriction. I wonder how close to Ultrix-11 the V1.x Ultrix-32 stuff
is?? If they are very close (or possibly even from the same sources) it
might make sense to go back to the earlier Ultrix-32 and then develop
both of them at the same time.
bill
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Sparc-1's
that I could get rid of. Keeps them out of the landfill.
And before anybody asks, no, I would not even consider trying to
package and ship them anywhere.
Portland, OR. And, don't worry, I wouldn't even consider shipping! Ummm. No. Ultrix-32 is not covered by the
Ancient Unix License and
the last time I talked with Warren it was not available. Ultrix-11
is, but I hardly think that will run on a VAX. Of course, none of the
above precludes running Ultrix-32 on a VAX as Compaq doesn't seem to
care enough about it to even talk to anyone about it.
Better go take a look at the PUPS archive. V1.0 and V1.2 is on it as near
as I can tell. I looked earlier this afternoon. I detailed what I found in
an earlier message.
5:48 a.m.
New subject: Ultrix-32 was: Sparc at home
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Gunshannon" <bill(a)cs.scranton.edu>
To: <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2001 9:35 AM
Subject: Re: Sparc at home
On Fri, 13 Jul 2001, Zane H. Healy wrote:
> > Ummm. No. Ultrix-32 is not covered by the Ancient
Unix License and
> > the last time I talked with Warren it was
not
available. Ultrix-11
> > is, but I hardly think that will run on a
VAX. Of
course, none of the
> > above precludes running Ultrix-32 on a VAX
as Compaq
doesn't seem to
> > care enough about it to even talk to anyone
about it.
>
> Better go take a look at the PUPS archive. V1.0 and
V1.2 is on it as near
> as I can tell. I looked earlier this afternoon.
I
detailed what I found in
> an earlier message.
I have TK50 tapes with Ultrix on them that came with the
VAXstation II
AQ-KU57B-BE ultrix ws v2.0 unsupp
AQ-PB30A-BE U-32 V3.1/UWS V2.2 (VAX) upd
AQ-JU00C-BE ultrix-32 V2.2 standalone
AQ-KU57A-BE ultrix WS V1.1 unsupp
AQ-LV82A-BE U-32 V2.2/UWS V1.2 TK50 S/W
AQ-JU00E-BE ultrix-32 V3.0 standalone
AQ-EE50D-BE DECNET-ULTRIX V2.2 bin tk50
AQ-HN37D-BE ultrix WS V2.0 supported TK50
I'm still looking for a BC18z cable and monitor to bring
this machine back to life.
The U-Haul dealer lost my reservation so I grabbed 2 card
racks for the PDP 11/34 and had to leave the racks and 4
RK05 drives behind for another attempt.
1:13 p.m.
New subject: Looking for RA7x series disks
Is there any chance anyone here has any RA7x series disks they want to
get rid of?? I just got an old 3000 series VAX that the previous owner
thought had DSSI. It tuens out it has SDI and one dead RA70 in it. I
would like to be able to use this without anchoring it to an RA80 or RA81.
Afterall, I thought I was the last masochist left still running SDI on
anything. :-)
bill
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bill(a)cs.scranton.edu | and a sheep voting on what's for dinner.
University of Scranton |
Scranton, Pennsylvania | #include <std.disclaimer.h>
16 Jul
16 Jul
7:09 p.m.
New subject: Looking for RA7x series disks
Bill Gunshannon wrote:
Is there any chance anyone here has any RA7x series disks they want to
get rid of?? I just got an old 3000 series VAX that the previous owner
thought had DSSI. It tuens out it has SDI and one dead RA70 in it. I
would like to be able to use this without anchoring it to an RA80 or RA81.
Afterall, I thought I was the last masochist left still running SDI on
anything. :-)
bill
I've got a RA70 sitting on my desk, tested good on the 11/785 at work
a few months back. If you have a RD5x series drive to swap, so much
the better. The RD53 in my 11/83 died a few months back and my attempts
to mate a UC07/scsi combo to it have proven unsucessful.
-- nick o
13 Jul
13 Jul
5:15 p.m.
New subject: The Imlac may live for VCF!
Well, I managed to find some time to see if the old Imlac would fire
up in time for VCF East. It hasn't run in probably 10 years and so I
pulled all of the cards, plugged it in and turned on the switch. Poof!
The main fuse blew -- darn! After a quick look over, I put in a new
fuse and tried it one more time. This time it didn't blow and some of
the supplies actually came up. I reseated a couple of edge connectors
and tried one more time and all five main supplies came up! Woohoo!!!
If things continue with this much luck, I may decide to bring this
beast to VCF East this year... If not there is always next year.
More news as it occurs.
--tom
8:44 a.m.
On Fri, Jul 13, 2001 at 07:42:31AM -0700, Ethan Dicks wrote:
There is a suns-at-home list that people with personal
SPARC hardware might
consider joining. General information about the mailing list is at:
http://www.net-kitchen.com/mailman/listinfo/suns-at-home
Suns-at-home isnt very active at all. You might want to consider one
of the SunHELP lists instead:
http://www.sunhelp.org/mailman/listinfo/sunhelp (general Sun help)
http://www.sunhelp.org/mailman/listinfo/rescue (emphasis on rescuing older
Sun stuff; similar to this list)
And, of course, http://www.sunhelp.org.
I have no "vested interest", I just happen to run all of the above. 8-)
Bill
--
Bill Bradford
mrbill(a)mrbill.net
Austin, TX
10:21 p.m.
--- Bill Bradford <mrbill(a)mrbill.net> wrote:
On Fri, Jul 13, 2001 at 07:42:31AM -0700, Ethan Dicks
wrote:
True, it's not terribly active, but I have found it to be useful over the
years.
There is a suns-at-home list that people with
personal SPARC hardware might
consider joining. General information about the mailing list is at:
http://www.net-kitchen.com/mailman/listinfo/suns-at-home
Suns-at-home isnt very active at all. You might want to consider one of the SunHELP lists
instead:
Maybe _I_ should get on those (as if I need more to read ;-)
I have no "vested interest", I just happen
to run all of the above. 8-)
Bill
And a wonderful job you do. Thanks!
-ethan
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