I can also run a 2nd machine to handle the actual web mail processing if need be. And web mail isn't a deal breaker anyway. I just happen to have two or three users that keep asking me about it, so I figured as long as I'm upgrading, now would be a good time to try to add it. I don't care about the latest bells and whistles per se... however, since my goal is to reject known spam and viri, that ebs into the relm. But, it sounds like you are having no problems on that end of things anyway. In fact, like you point out, since I want to run on old hardware, I may be better off going with something that isn't going to expect me to constantly add to it... that way once it is running, I can just leave it running and not have to worry about regular updates (probably the single biggest reason why I won't run Windows based internet servers... they expect you to do updates too often, I don't have the time/desire to jerk around with that). I'm not looking at anywhere NEAR that number of boxes. I'm looking at around 50 spread among a dozen domains (most of the domains are Unified accounts anyway, so one box covers all possible addresses for the domain). The server only gets in the range of 2000 messages a day (most being to me anyway). So it is a fairly light duty server. I've heard enough horror stories about Sendmail to know that I probably don't want to use it. From what I gather, its great, IF you know how to use it... but if you are new to it, be prepared to move the sacrificial lambs off the SCSI god alter and onto the Sendmail god alter. (Ironically, Sendmail is the only *nix mailer I have used already... I'm running it on both my web servers for handling emails created by web forms... but I didn't really have to do much to get it up and running, just a little tweaking to lock it down from the outside) Thanks -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>