I videotaped it, at SLP speed unfortunately. I say unfortunately, since I noticed for a very brief instant while they were panning across Liza Loop's basement, a PDP 8 or 11. Going back and using single-frame advance, it looks to me like a PDP 8/L in a desktop case. The front panel switches and indicators match perfectly with a 8/L, and the color scheme is correct for some sort of 8. The tape was too grainy for any further details ;) Just thought I'd mention it, perhaps someone should volunteer to take that machine off their hands, its certainly not being used in the basement, with boxes of junk stacked on it, and sitting next to baskets of old clothes. There is also a 'mystery box' that looks like it should be DEC equipment as well, it is the same size as the 8/L, appears to have a solid black front with a ACE switch in the lower left, has the same milky white metal frame around the front panel, and there is a large piece of old paper covering most of the rest of the front... Expansion box for the 8/L perhaps? -Lawrence LeMay