21 Nov
2001
21 Nov
'01
1:30 a.m.
-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Erlacher [mailto:edick@idcomm.com]
really well. Lots of folks have drawn the erroneous
conclusion that they're in
the business of writing software. That's not the case.
They're in the business
of SELLING software. It's not their job to protect the
consumer. It's the
consumer's job to protect himself. The consumer's been
falling down on the job,
All too true. Unfortunately, some of those consumers employ me, so it
becomes my problem too. :)
I should clarify that I don't dislike my employer. I only dislike the fact
that (like most companies) they're stupid enough to run parts of their
business on microsoft software.
hence, he keeps on buying that Microsoft product line.
If he
were smart, he'd
stick with the devil he partially knows, and let M$ go under.
SO much for
Billy-bashing ...
Very clear cut. I wish everyone saw it that way. ;)
I'd like to see someone write a chunk of software
that does
as much as this one
in 20 minutes, BTW. I don't think something this size will
even link in 20
minutes.
I was exaggerating to show my point.
[snip]
longer the case. In fact, so much wierd stuff goes on
internally to the drive,
since the controller function is dedicated on each drive,
that it's hard to know
what is different between two drives.
Too true, again. I blame whoever decided IDE hard drives were good to
shoehorn into any system ;) (Maybe that was apple?)
Regards,
Chris
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21 Nov
21 Nov
1:15 a.m.
longer the
case. In fact, so much wierd stuff goes on
internally to the drive,
since the controller function is dedicated on each drive,
that it's hard to know
what is different between two drives.
Too true, again. I blame whoever decided IDE hard drives were good to
shoehorn into any system ;) (Maybe that was apple?) 
10:08 a.m.
Jeff Hellige skrev:
>Too true, again. I blame whoever decided IDE hard
drives were good to
>shoehorn into any system ;) (Maybe that was apple?)
Actually, even the Amiga adopted IDE as it's
standard hard
disk interface before Apple did, as the Amiga 4000 (1992) came out
roughly two years ahead of the Performa 630 (1994). Tandy was using
the 8bit version of the IDE interface in it's SL/TL series machines
as early as 1989, though only 4 drives were ever manufactured that
were compatible with it.
The Commodore A590 controller (released in 1987?) also had an XT-IDE
controller on its PCB in addition to the SCSI interface. It was a cheap way
for C= to add small drives into the A590 case.
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11:14 a.m.
The Commodore A590 controller (released in 1987?) also
had an XT-IDE
controller on its PCB in addition to the SCSI interface. It was a cheap way
for C= to add small drives into the A590 case.
I didn't know that...I had always thought that the older
Amiga hard disk interfaces were either ST506 or SCSI.
Jeff
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23 Nov
4:04 a.m.
Jeff Hellige skrev:
>The Commodore A590 controller (released in 1987?)
also had an XT-IDE
>controller on its PCB in addition to the SCSI interface. It was a cheap way
>for C= to add small drives into the A590 case.
I didn't know that...I had always thought that
the older
Amiga hard disk interfaces were either ST506 or SCSI.
Interestingly, the A590 has an XT-IDE controller, the A2090 an ST506. Both
have SCSI, of course. I had the questionable pleasure of seeing an Amiga 2000
with *two* ST506 hard drives last week when were given one by a former member.
One was connected to the 2090, one to an 8-bit ISA controller for the A2088
bridgeboard. Hideous sight, not to mention the sound. =/
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6:15 a.m.
Interestingly, the A590 has an XT-IDE controller, the
A2090 an ST506. Both
have SCSI, of course. I had the questionable pleasure of seeing an Amiga 2000
with *two* ST506 hard drives last week when were given one by a former member.
One was connected to the 2090, one to an 8-bit ISA controller for the A2088
bridgeboard. Hideous sight, not to mention the sound. =/
I definately remember the A2000's with ST506 drives
installed. During my first exposure to Amiga's it was a big deal if
you had a controller that would actually autoboot vice needing a
floppy to boot the machine at least part way. The Tecmar hard disk
assembly on my A1000 is like that...the drivers for the controller
are loaded off of the Workbench floppy. Now that I actually have two
of the drives for my Tecmar controller though I should open one up
and see what's inside of it. In the '87-88 timeframe it was the
cost of the controller/drive combos for the Amiga that initially made
me shy away from them.
Jeff
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24 Nov
24 Nov
5:27 a.m.
Jeff Hellige skrev:
>Interestingly, the A590 has an XT-IDE controller,
the A2090 an ST506. Both
>have SCSI, of course. I had the questionable pleasure of seeing an Amiga
>2000 with *two* ST506 hard drives last week when were given one by a former
>member. One was connected to the 2090, one to an 8-bit ISA controller for
>the A2088 bridgeboard. Hideous sight, not to mention the sound. =/
I definately remember the A2000's with ST506
drives
installed. During my first exposure to Amiga's it was a big deal if
you had a controller that would actually autoboot vice needing a
floppy to boot the machine at least part way. The Tecmar hard disk
assembly on my A1000 is like that...the drivers for the controller
are loaded off of the Workbench floppy. Now that I actually have two
of the drives for my Tecmar controller though I should open one up
and see what's inside of it. In the '87-88 timeframe it was the
cost of the controller/drive combos for the Amiga that initially made
me shy away from them.
The A2090 is a bit of a bother in that regard. I believe the oldest revisions
wouldn't autoboot at all, whereas newer revisions would, at least after a ROM
update. However, it didn't use Commodore's standard for autobooting drives
(Is this what RDB does?) and AFAIK, it can't be manipulated with HDToolbox.
The MFM drives need to have particular partition names, too, which also alter
the order of SCSI partitions. I suppose it does what it's supposed to do if
you just use it as a cheap way to get a SCSI card for connecting the
occasional SyQuest or scanner, but it certainly wouldn't be my prime choice
for a SCSI card. =/
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