17 Apr
1998
17 Apr
'98
7:34 a.m.
-----Original Message-----
From: Christian Fandt [SMTP:cfandt@servtech.com]
Sent: Friday, April 17, 1998 9:10 AM
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
Subject: Warez?? Was: Re: James Willings still up?
Forgive me for not knowing what _might_ be common knowledge amongst some
folks here, but what is this "warez" thing??
Warez (pronounced "war-ehs" is an infamous village in southern Mexico
that
was once a training camp for CIA counter-insurgency computer terrorism
recruits. Furnished with the highest end computer hacking equipment by the
US Government, under the direction of Oliver North, they went rogue when the
program was discontinued during the Iran-Contra scandal. After their
payroll was cut, the village, ironically, hired itself out to international
terrorist concerns to perform paid attacks on US commerce. This situation
was exacerbated by an abortive attempt to invade Warez by Puerto Rican
commandos under the direction of the US military in 1997. This has since
been known as the "Bay of Warez" disaster.
Kai
17 Apr
17 Apr
8:28 a.m.
Warez (pronounced "war-ehs" is an infamous
village in southern Mexico that
was once a training camp for CIA counter-insurgency computer terrorism
recruits. Furnished with the highest end computer hacking equipment by the
US Government, under the direction of Oliver North, they went rogue when the
program was discontinued during the Iran-Contra scandal. After their
payroll was cut, the village, ironically, hired itself out to international
terrorist concerns to perform paid attacks on US commerce. This situation
was exacerbated by an abortive attempt to invade Warez by Puerto Rican
commandos under the direction of the US military in 1997. This has since
been known as the "Bay of Warez" disaster.
Well, that is VERY interesting!
You hear something new every day... Well,
my answer is that warez is a stupid name made up by a bunch of 12 year olds
that trade software all day long(or whenever else they have a computer and
net access in front of them). I'm not going to get started with the rest of
the inevitable discussion...
But to get back to computers, I'm about to go grab about 10 old Wyse
terminals. Whhee!! I'm thinking of using it for packet radio, among other
things. I'll keep two of them, one is going to a ham friend, and the rest
will probably go to one of the local ham clubs. Amateur radio is NOT dead!
Just a little quiet... Another discussion I don't really want to start,
since it has been going on ever since ham radio began. See
rec.radio.amateur.policy if you want to get into that thread...
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8:34 a.m.
[This is supposed to go to John, but I'm not sure if it will go there.
I told MM to send to SENDER. Let's find out!]
Amateur radio is't dead. One of my co-workers is a storm chaser, he lent me his
2-meter handheld so I could listen in.
(Alinco DJ-S11. Little bitty thing! He says it does 1/2watt TX, it runs from
3 AA batteries, and I can palm it. I can even smuggle it into school with an
earpiece and listen during class... :-)
Nothing interesting came of it (Where's a tornado when you need one?) but
I was listening to the normal traffic, sounds like fun, so I'm gonna go get
a no-code Tech license and join in. Always wanted to, but never thought I'd get
the time. I think I'll make this a priority...
(Set it one notch under the KS-10 thing)
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9:29 a.m.
Amateur radio is't dead. One of my co-workers is a
storm chaser, he lent
me his
2-meter handheld so I could listen in.
(Alinco DJ-S11. Little bitty thing! He says it does 1/2watt TX, it runs from
3 AA batteries, and I can palm it. I can even smuggle it into school with an
earpiece and listen during class... :-)
Alinco makes a few intersting radios.
Personally, I like the DJ-C1(and C4),
the little credit card radios with an incredibly small antenna and only
300mW output, and to top it off no internal speaker(not enough room!).
Kinda expensive at almost $200, though. The S11 is nice, 340mW(about 1/3W)
output, small and selling for $88 at HRO right now. I think everyone is
closing out on this, they may have stopped production. Or maybe just behind
schedule in production, I'm not sure. I heard someone on the air with one,
and it has a cute little end of transmission beep like some repeaters do...
And storm chasing sounds like fun, too bad(or maybe too lucky) that there
aren't many in the northwest... But I get to read the stories posted to the
WX-CHASE email list. Lots if interesting stuff. I actually had an
interesting idea, putting an ATV, packet and voice radio into a truck and
chasing tornadoes. See what it looks like from a chasers point of view with
70cm ATV! :-) Kinda expensive to setup(commercial video and packet
equipment can be expensive), but it would be a lot of fun...
Nothing interesting came of it (Where's a tornado
when you need one?) but
I was listening to the normal traffic, sounds like fun, so I'm gonna go get
a no-code Tech license and join in. Always wanted to, but never thought
I'd get
the time. I think I'll make this a priority...
I'm a no-code Tech right
now, working on upgrading to General. Lots of fun.
I want to get started with packet and maybe some ATV/SSTV if I can get some
video equipment. A very fun hobby(some debates over that occasionally), and
not too expensive depending on how you go about it. Right now I have maybe
$80 worth of equipment, being a Kenwood TH-205 handheld 2m radio I got for
$35(and a new battery that cost $38), an antenna I built for about $5, and
a Radio Shack antenna that my uncle gave me... Morse code is most of what
I'm stuck on right now, but I'm slowly getting better.
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9:39 a.m.
John Rollins wrote:
This is exactly right. Anything in the kiddie world of pirated software that's
plural is spelled with a z instead of an s. Filez, Warez, Bombz, Serialz,
Piratez, etc are all terms that refer to this type of activity. Believe it or not
it's actually computer related.
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Warez
(pronounced "war-ehs" is an infamous village in southern Mexico that
was once a training camp for CIA counter-insurgency computer terrorism
recruits. Furnished with the highest end computer hacking equipment by the
US Government, under the direction of Oliver North, they went rogue when the
program was discontinued during the Iran-Contra scandal. After their
payroll was cut, the village, ironically, hired itself out to international
terrorist concerns to perform paid attacks on US commerce. This situation
was exacerbated by an abortive attempt to invade Warez by Puerto Rican
commandos under the direction of the US military in 1997. This has since
been known as the "Bay of Warez" disaster.
Well, that is VERY
interesting! You hear something new every day... Well,
my answer is that warez is a stupid name made up by a bunch of 12 year olds
that trade software all day long(or whenever else they have a computer and
net access in front of them). I'm not going to get started with the rest of
the inevitable discussion...
9:30 a.m.
This is exactly right. Anything in the kiddie world of
pirated software that's
plural is spelled with a z instead of an s. Filez, Warez, Bombz, Serialz,
Piratez, etc are all terms that refer to this type of activity. Believe it
or not
it's actually computer related.
\/\/@y c001 d00dz!
There are actually programs that will convert a text file into "warez"
format... Scary, isn't it?
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9:37 a.m.
[There are programs that convert a text file...]
Do they do ElITe CaPiTAlS too? :)
I think it's fun to tease the warez-lusers. What's even more fun is to give
one of them a shadowed password file, and watch them try to run crack on it..
Or give them my VAX's IP and watch them beat their brains out trying to break
in. Security through obscurity! I was told one of them tried winnuke...
"What the hell kind of unix is that?" -ZeROKewl, in the #warez channel on
dalnet, upon seeing Minako's login prompt (VAX/VMS)
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10:01 a.m.
[There are programs that convert a text file...]
Do they do ElITe CaPiTAlS too? :)
Probably. It gets very stupid very quick... 5
seconds after you download
it, it gets trashed because it's so useless... Now, if it could HTMLize it
at the same time... ;-)
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10:13 a.m.
[There are programs that convert a text file...]
Do they do ElITe CaPiTAlS too? :)
I think it's fun to tease the warez-lusers. What's even more fun is to give
one of them a shadowed password file, and watch them try to run crack on it..
Or give them my VAX's IP and watch them beat their brains out trying to break
in. Security through obscurity! I was told one of them tried winnuke...
"What the hell kind of unix is that?" -ZeROKewl, in the #warez channel on
dalnet, upon seeing Minako's login prompt (VAX/VMS)
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1:56 p.m.
John Rollins wrote:
\/\/@y c001 d00dz!
There are actually programs that will convert a text file into "warez"
format... Scary, isn't it?
I think I have other text convertors stashed that change a text file into
"jive",
"valley girl" and yet another I can't think of right now for some reason. It
might
be Yankee like up in New England, specifically the stereotypical Vermont/New
Hamster dialect.
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9:18 a.m.
Kai Kaltenbach wrote:
While the above is very true, I have come to know the term Warez as being
pirated-commercial software. Today, there is a large group of folks, especially
on the internet, that deal in "Warez". You know, short for
"softwares." Meaning,
they have a web site up, and there you can illegally download all your favorite
"Warez". Oh, I am pronouncing it "Where's".... generally, these
Warez are
modern, commercially marketed software packages, games, etc. Another term that
is widely used for those that are pirating this stuff, at least used by those of
us not 'into' that 'market', is "Warez-lamers."
I guess, that could just be an interpretation. However, I do know someone that
is heavily into that type of thing and he also prounces "Warez" as
"Where's" --
short for softwares.
My $.02 or maybe $.00000000000000002
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-----Original
Message-----
From: Christian Fandt [SMTP:cfandt@servtech.com]
Sent: Friday, April 17, 1998 9:10 AM
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
Subject: Warez?? Was: Re: James Willings still up?
Forgive me for not knowing what _might_ be common knowledge amongst some
folks here, but what is this "warez" thing??
Warez (pronounced "war-ehs" is an infamous village in southern Mexico
that
was once a training camp for CIA counter-insurgency computer terrorism
recruits. Furnished with the highest end computer hacking equipment by the
US Government, under the direction of Oliver North, they went rogue when the
program was discontinued during the Iran-Contra scandal. After their
payroll was cut, the village, ironically, hired itself out to international
terrorist concerns to perform paid attacks on US commerce. This situation
was exacerbated by an abortive attempt to invade Warez by Puerto Rican
commandos under the direction of the US military in 1997. This has since
been known as the "Bay of Warez" disaster.
Kai 
10:26 a.m.
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Or was that a little joke??
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From: Christian Fandt [SMTP:cfandt@servtech.com]
Sent: Friday, April 17, 1998 9:10 AM
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
Subject: Warez?? Was: Re: James Willings still up?
Forgive me for not knowing what _might_ be common knowledge amongst some
folks here, but what is this "warez" thing??
Warez (pronounced "war-ehs" is an infamous village in southern Mexico
that
was once a training camp for CIA counter-insurgency computer terrorism
recruits. Furnished with the highest end computer hacking equipment by the
US Government, under the direction of Oliver North, they went rogue when the
program was discontinued during the Iran-Contra scandal. After their
payroll was cut, the village, ironically, hired itself out to international
terrorist concerns to perform paid attacks on US commerce. This situation
was exacerbated by an abortive attempt to invade Warez by Puerto Rican
commandos under the direction of the US military in 1997. This has since
been known as the "Bay of Warez" disaster.
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