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healyzh＠aracnet.com

13 Feb 2001 13 Feb '01

3:16 p.m.

OK, this is sort of on/off-topic, but..... Out of curiousity, has anyone run E11 (PDP-11 Emulator) on Windows ME? Are there any compatibility issues between Win98 and WinME? I just got my wife a low-end Thinkpad and am wanting to be able to run E11 on it. Zane

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spectre＠stockholm.ptloma.edu

13 Feb 13 Feb

5:54 p.m.

Out of curiousity, has anyone run E11 (PDP-11 Emulator) on Windows ME? Are there any compatibility issues between Win98 and WinME? I just got my wife a low-end Thinkpad and am wanting to be able to run E11 on it.

I doubt it, since WinME is the same old kernel (it's not the NT kernel of WinToke, er, 2K). It just claims "not to have DOS" but this, like 95 and 98 is an illusion (just a better hiding job has been done in ME). -- ----------------------------- personal page: http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ -- Cameron Kaiser, Point Loma Nazarene University * ckaiser(a)stockholm.ptloma.edu -- Proponents of other opinions will be merrily beaten to a bloody pulp. ------

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pechter＠pechter.dyndns.org

14 Feb 14 Feb

2:33 a.m.

OK, this is sort of on/off-topic, but..... Out of curiousity, has anyone run E11 (PDP-11 Emulator) on Windows ME? Are there any compatibility issues between Win98 and WinME? I just got my wife a low-end Thinkpad and am wanting to be able to run E11 on it. Zane

It should run just find. I've run it on a Thinkpad 760 with W98.... ME is just W98 v3. --Bill -- bpechter(a)monmouth.com | FreeBSD since 1.0.2, Linux since 0.99.10 Brainbench MVP | Unix Sys Admin since Sys V/BSD 4.2 Unix Sys.Admin. | Windows System Administration: "Magical Misery Tour"

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optimus＠canit.se

4:44 a.m.

healyzh skrev:

OK, this is sort of on/off-topic, but.....

Out of curiousity, has anyone run E11 (PDP-11 Emulator) on Windows ME? Are there any compatibility issues between Win98 and WinME? I just got my wife a low-end Thinkpad and am wanting to be able to run E11 on it.

Windows ME runs on a whole slew of processors, such as the ARM or Hitachi SH- 4, whereas Windows 9x only runs on Intels. I think binary compatibility is expecting too much. -- En ligne avec Thor 2.6. Iggy tipsar: Vill du l?sa en PDF-fil, men saknar l?sare, skicka den till pdf2txt(a)adobe.com, du f?r den tillbaka som ren ASCII till din epostadress.

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geneb＠deltasoft.com

6:40 a.m.

OK, this is sort of on/off-topic, but.....

Out of curiousity, has anyone run E11 (PDP-11 Emulator) on Windows ME? Are there any compatibility issues between Win98 and WinME? I just got my wife a low-end Thinkpad and am wanting to be able to run E11 on it.

Windows ME runs on a whole slew of processors, such as the ARM or Hitachi SH- 4, whereas Windows 9x only runs on Intels. I think binary compatibility is expecting too much.

I think you're confusing Windows Millenium Edition (ME) with Windows CE which is the version used in a number of PDA type devices. g.

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optimus＠canit.se

8:05 a.m.

Gene Buckle skrev:

OK, this is sort of on/off-topic, but.....

Out of curiousity, has anyone run E11 (PDP-11 Emulator) on Windows ME? Are there any compatibility issues between Win98 and WinME? I just got my wife a low-end Thinkpad and am wanting to be able to run E11 on it.

Windows ME runs on a whole slew of processors, such as the ARM or Hitachi SH- 4, whereas Windows 9x only runs on Intels. I think binary compatibility is expecting too much.

I think you're confusing Windows Millenium Edition (ME) with Windows CE which is the version used in a number of PDA type devices.

Ah yes, I must have made the connection portable -> Windows ?E -> compatibility problems. Why would there be compatibility problems between ME and 98? -- En ligne avec Thor 2.6. Georgie beundrade stor?gt sin pappa som med v?ldsamma slag gick l?s p? det stora tr?det. Han badade i svett, och den muskul?sa kroppen bl?nkte i solskenet. Hon ?lskade honom. Lady Georgie, TMS 1983

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pechter＠pechter.dyndns.org

11:17 a.m.

Ah yes, I must have made the connection portable -> Windows ?E -> compatibility problems. Why would there be compatibility problems between ME and 98?

So Microsoft could get you to upgrade applications? --Bill -- bpechter(a)monmouth.com | FreeBSD since 1.0.2, Linux since 0.99.10 Brainbench MVP | Unix Sys Admin since Sys V/BSD 4.2 Unix Sys.Admin. | Windows System Administration: "Magical Misery Tour"

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optimus＠canit.se

1:02 p.m.

Bill Pechter skrev:

> Ah yes, I must have made the connection portable -> Windows ?E -> > compatibility problems. > Why would there be compatibility problems between ME and 98?

So Microsoft could get you to upgrade applications?

I can't see why that would lie in Microsoft's interest. Especially since they may just as well fool users to buy the same old product once again. Seems like someone's been bitten by MS FUD. -- En ligne avec Thor 2.6. Es gibt zweierlei M?dchen: die einen, die Pullover stricken, und die anderen, die sie ausf?llen. --- Daliah Lavi

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jhellige＠earthlink.net

1:38 p.m.

Ah yes, I must have made the connection portable -> Windows ?E -> compatibility problems. Why would there be compatibility problems between ME and 98?

So Microsoft could get you to upgrade applications?

A lot of things broke going between '95/98 and NT and now we're finding problems testing stuff under 2000 as well. Thankfully we only have a handful of 2000 machines. Oh yes, and now MS has 'fixed' the Mac version of Outlook so that it is 'compatible' with the viruses for the Windows version! Needless to say, I'm the only one in the building running the Outlook 2001 Beta and that's just for testing purposes. BTW, we had an interesting thing happen today. Everyone went into work this morning to find that the MS Exchange server had locked everyone out with an 'out of license' error message. We manually went through and checked the licenses in use to find that there were people that had left nearly two years ago that the server software still saw as vailid even though thier accounts and all had been removed. Needless to say, we quickly deleted these bogus licenses and got things back running again. Jeff -- Collector of Classic Microcomputers and Video Game Systems: Home of the TRS-80 Model 2000 FAQ File http://www.geocities.com/siliconvalley/lakes/6757

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healyzh＠aracnet.com

11:26 a.m.

Ah yes, I must have made the connection portable -> Windows ?E -> compatibility problems. Why would there be compatibility problems between ME and 98?

I don't run Windows, I don't even use it (shoot my wife who isn't into computers is the Windows expert in our house). However, the laptop is primarily for her, but I want to run E11 on it (which looks to me to be a DOS app), hence the question. Zane

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optimus＠canit.se

1:04 p.m.

healyzh skrev:

> Ah yes, I must have made the connection portable -> Windows ?E -> > compatibility problems. > Why would there be compatibility problems between ME and 98?

I don't run Windows, I don't even use it (shoot my wife who isn't into computers is the Windows expert in our house). However, the laptop is primarily for her, but I want to run E11 on it (which looks to me to be a DOS app), hence the question.

I see. In that case, I'm no Windows expert either. But since I "know so much about computers", I get all kinds of silly questions about Windows things. I wonder if this makes me incompetent, since I only know a lot of strange systems which people haven't heard of it or "isn't that dead?". =/ -- En ligne avec Thor 2.6. We have the most thorough test guy in the world... I showed him this program and he asked, 'but Rob, what if time runs backward?'

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healyzh＠aracnet.com

2:12 p.m.

I see. In that case, I'm no Windows expert either. But since I "know so much about computers", I get all kinds of silly questions about Windows things. I wonder if this makes me incompetent, since I only know a lot of strange systems which people haven't heard of it or "isn't that dead?". =/

It doesn't make you incompetent, it gives you an easy out when all your relatives want your help with their computer problems! When I got married it quickly became apparent it was in my best interest not to know Windows! Zane

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ard＠p850ug1.demon.co.uk

15 Feb 15 Feb

7:47 a.m.

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cmcmanis＠mcmanis.com

14 Feb 14 Feb

6:53 a.m.

At 04:44 PM 2/14/01 +0100, you wrote:

Windows ME runs on a whole slew of processors, such as the ARM or Hitachi SH- 4, whereas Windows 9x only runs on Intels. I think binary compatibility is expecting too much.

Nope, you are confusing Windows "CE" with Windows "ME" (what a difference a letter makes), the "CE" aka "Compact Edition" runs on a variety of processors, the "ME" aks "Millenium Edition" runs only on x86 architectures. Then there is Windows "NT" which ran on x86, PowerPC, and Alpha, and "Windows 2K" which runs only on x86 again. Note you can buy all four of these operating systems from Microsoft today, confused yet? --Chuck

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cisin＠xenosoft.com

11:06 a.m.

At 04:44 PM 2/14/01 +0100, you wrote: >Windows ME runs on a whole slew of processors, such as the ARM or Hitachi SH- >4, whereas Windows 9x only runs on Intels. I think binary compatibility is >expecting too much.

On Wed, 14 Feb 2001, Chuck McManis wrote:

Nope, you are confusing Windows "CE" with Windows "ME" (what a difference a letter makes), the "CE" aka "Compact Edition" runs on a variety of processors,

At one point, "CE" was "Consumer Electronics"! Did it change? There is a "new" variation of "Windows CE" called "Pocket PC".

the "ME" aka "Millenium Edition" runs only on x86 architectures.

and "ME" was a renaming of "98", which was a renaming of "95" BTW, "98" will REFUSE to install unless there is a math coprocessor! What possible reasons could there be for an OS to need floating point??????

Then there is Windows "NT" which ran on x86, PowerPC, and Alpha, and "Windows 2K" which runs only on x86 again.

"Windows 2000" was a renaming of "NT 5". Did the non x86 versions of NT survive?

Note you can buy all four of these operating systems from Microsoft today, confused yet?

I can't understand ANY current MICROS~1 product names! Are they now created with a random word generator? What is the intent behind the name "Visual Studio" for their compiler suite? What is "Interdev"? Why is the Virus Transfer Protocol product named "Outlook"? -- Grumpy Ol' Fred cisin(a)xenosoft.com

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optimus＠canit.se

1:08 p.m.

XenoSoft skrev:

"Windows 2000" was a renaming of "NT 5". Did the non x86 versions of NT survive?

Alpha seems to be trodding along, but MIPS and PPC versions have been dead for a long while.

I can't understand ANY current MICROS~1 product names! Are they now created with a random word generator? What is the intent behind the name "Visual Studio" for their compiler suite? What is "Interdev"? Why is the Virus Transfer Protocol product named "Outlook"?

Grumpy Ol' Fred cisin(a)xenosoft.com

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ard＠p850ug1.demon.co.uk
cisin＠xenosoft.com
cmcmanis＠mcmanis.com
geneb＠deltasoft.com
healyzh＠aracnet.com
jhellige＠earthlink.net
optimus＠canit.se
pechter＠pechter.dyndns.org
spectre＠stockholm.ptloma.edu